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Old 05-13-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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From the moment that western Europe has non-replacement birth rates, what do you want?
Do you think that 60 to 80 year olds will tend tables and brew capuccinos, work 14 hours a day, pick strawberries in hothouses at 50 degrees, collect garbage, dig ditches?
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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You have any idea how EU works? That ****face can propose whatever he wants. Also Finnish PM already stated that Finland won't accept this And our new governement is right wing! So have fun with your multikulti
According to media reports today, the Netherlands at least has agreed to take a quota of 4,35% of the total from today.

Looking at figures for last year, the situation is only getting worse not better with 625,000 asylum seekers arriving in 2014. http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documen...3-6b086b23ef2b

Using those figures it implies that the Netherlands will be getting another 27,187 migrants added to the country's already over populated cities and resources.

Also, Dutch media is reporting that of the 29,000 Somaliers who were granted asylum in 2011, the vast majority are still living on welfare and have virtually no hope of ever getting a job because they're illiterate and can't learn the language. Welfare payments amount to 70% of the national minimum wage the latter of which amounts to €1501,80. So this group alone is costing the country €30,479,000 every single month (€1,051 x 29,000).

On top of that, we've got a huge number of failed asylum seekers deemed to be economic migrants who think that by protesting, they'll win some sympathy and be allowed to remain in the country. They set up camp in public parks and just cause trouble for local residents. In the video, Dutch police tore down one of they camps recently which somebody filmed. Some of the scenes are in English so don't be put off by the opening statements which are in Dutch.

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Old 05-13-2015, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Slovakia
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This isn't about immigration it's regular invasion, the EU proposal is actually a declaration of war against its members. People with no economic value whatsoever are trying to get something for nothing and their offspring will burn the cities of Europe to the ground.
Moreover this proposal is just ridiculous because you can't simply restrict these potential asylum seekers from travelling free within the Schengen area.
So this proposal doesn't move things forward in any way.

Best solution is to close the EU boundaries and stop importing potential Muslim terrorists into our developed societies. We need educated people who are willing to work and study. Instead of supporting these "asylum seekers" support our own people and motivate them to have a babies.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Finland
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From the moment that western Europe has non-replacement birth rates, what do you want?
Do you think that 60 to 80 year olds will tend tables and brew capuccinos, work 14 hours a day, pick strawberries in hothouses at 50 degrees, collect garbage, dig ditches?
Do you have any studies claiming that businesses can't find blue collar workers anymore?


Yea thought so

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Old 05-13-2015, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Finland
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According to media reports today, the Netherlands at least has agreed to take a quota of 4,35% of the total from today.

Looking at figures for last year, the situation is only getting worse not better with 625,000 asylum seekers arriving in 2014. http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documen...3-6b086b23ef2b

Using those figures it implies that the Netherlands will be getting another 27,187 migrants added to the country's already over populated cities and resources.

Also, Dutch media is reporting that of the 29,000 Somaliers who were granted asylum in 2011, the vast majority are still living on welfare and have virtually no hope of ever getting a job because they're illiterate and can't learn the language. Welfare payments amount to 70% of the national minimum wage the latter of which amounts to €1501,80. So this group alone is costing the country €30,479,000 every single month (€1,051 x 29,000).

On top of that, we've got a huge number of failed asylum seekers deemed to be economic migrants who think that by protesting, they'll win some sympathy and be allowed to remain in the country. They set up camp in public parks and just cause trouble for local residents. In the video, Dutch police tore down one of they camps recently which somebody filmed. Some of the scenes are in English so don't be put off by the opening statements which are in Dutch.

Our new government just yesterday stated that we won't accept this. Finland accepts around 1000 refugees per year.

Comission can propose whatever they want. They don't make laws.

Quick facts about Somalians in Finland : they are more likely to rape and mug people, most of them don't work, some support isis etc. ****tiest people in the world I think
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Florence-Prato 43,49 N latitude
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This is probably the biggest migration of ever.

Nobody like this has ever happened in European history
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:16 AM
 
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Default they don't brew capuccinos, they dig holes

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From the moment that western Europe has non-replacement birth rates, what do you want?
Do you think that 60 to 80 year olds will tend tables and brew capuccinos, work 14 hours a day, pick strawberries in hothouses at 50 degrees, collect garbage, dig ditches?
-Firstly, with a longer average life expectancy -and longer studies-people in the West don't retire before 65 anymore. (and wait until the transhumanists financed by Google manage to make people live 1000 years). And anyway the birthrate of certain country like France, Sweden, and Ireland is high enough already (2, 1 kids per wpùan) for replacing generations
-Secondly the only thing the illegal immigrants do is "dig holes" : either they dig holes in the social security (millions of € are specifically budgeted for them) or dig holes in the ground (they are illegally employed in the construction business which is an actual Mafia in France and is spreading concrete everywhere, even when it's not needed) .

Not only are they not needed, but they are a social and environmental timebomb.(and I didn't even talk of the Islamists and potential ISIS terrorists who squeeze themselves in )
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:36 AM
 
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Our new government just yesterday stated that we won't accept this. Finland accepts around 1000 refugees per year.

Comission can propose whatever they want. They don't make laws.

Quick facts about Somalians in Finland : they are more likely to rape and mug people, most of them don't work, some support isis etc. ****tiest people in the world I think
Finland doesn't sound like a nice place to live in for anybody, let alone asylum seekers: Migrant Tales / Speaking out for Others since 2007.
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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And I have something else to say : I'm in Paris and in my line of work I'm in close contact with legal immigrants (that is immigrants who respect in principle the laws of the host country). It doesn't seem fair to them to allow illegal immigrants to compete for the same jobs.
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Old 05-14-2015, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Europe
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I hope information of first worlds hunger is able to reach these people. There is no much sense going on right now, prices are going so high that sometimes even 2 persons full job household is not able survive.

I recommend to study subject of "first world hunger"

Why is there food insecurity in wealthy countries?
"We're food secure societies that produce enough. It's a lack of access to it. Many people just don't have the money in their pockets to go into stores and buy the food they need. This is where the question of rights come in. If you have jobs, but they're not paying enough, you're in trouble. It's very much an income problem, and that's the result of a failure of public policy. There's a question of whether government has lost its moral compass."
How Hunger Became a First World Problem | The Tyee


This is Europe too, sadly


There are food stores which put leftovers of their unsold food into trashcan, they lock them up meanwhile people are starving.


European (also white people) are starving, unemployed, students, workers, people are starving. Only rich people are not starving. When there is lower european class who cannot afford living and enough food, how it could be possible to take more people in?


"Hunger and food and insecurity should be understood as a human rights issue.
The right to food approach is derived from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights and everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person."

This is what leaders and schools are teaching in "first worlds countries".

This is what it looks like in first worlds countries:

EU:s food aid to eu citizens Europe

Roughly 40 million Europeans are suffering "severe material deprivation" according to data from the European Commission, with the same number unable to afford a meal with meat every second day. In total, 116 million EU citizens are judged "at risk of poverty or social exclusion."

meanwhile:

"
Food Waste Over 100 million tonnes of food are wasted annually in the EU (2014 estimate). If nothing is done, food waste is expected to rise to about 126 million tonnes by 2020.

The central goal of EU food safety policy is to protect both human and animal health. We cannot compromise on these standards but, in co-operation with Member States and stakeholders, are looking for every opportunity to prevent food waste and strengthen sustainability of the food system."

http://ec.europa.eu/food/safety/food_waste/index_en.htm
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