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View Poll Results: Is the Black Sea part of the Mediterranean world
Yes 8 34.78%
No 13 56.52%
only the southern shore (Turkey) 0 0%
other 2 8.70%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-26-2015, 06:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by grega94 View Post
how much does say Zonguldak, Sinop, Bafra differ from Izmir, Antalya, and Mersin on a cultural basis.
The Turkish Black Sea region can be divided into 3 parts: Western(Zonguldak and Sinop would be in this region), Central (Samsun Ordu and Giresun are the main areas here) and Eastern (Trabzon and Rize). Some of the neighboring inland provinces are included in this area due to cultural similarities. Kırklareli is on the Black Sea, but is considered part of Thrace.

The culture in Kırklareli is not unlike that of a Balkan country. The people from Thrace are often stereotyped as heavy drinkers, and there is a fair amount of truth to that stereotype. On the other end, the people in Rize are more similar Caucasus people (many of them are Laz, a group related to Georgians). In Trabzon, the people are a mix of Pontic converts to Islam and Turks. Many of the people are pale complexioned in these Eastern parts, and blue-eyed blonds are not uncommon. They are stereotyped as having quick tempers and strange ways of thinking.

In terms of culture, generally speaking the further East you go, the more conservative and traditional people are. In the Western Black Sea region, people are relatively moderate. In the Eastern part, they are quite conservative and traditional. The Central part is conservative, but not as much as the Eastern part.

The Mediterranean region, people are more laid back that their Black Sea counterparts. They are also Mediterranean in appearance (ie darker-complexioned). In general, they are fairly moderate, especially in the cities, and the closer you get to the Aegean, the more progressive they become--in the Aegean itself, people are quite progressive (Izmir is more progressive than most American cities).

In terms of culture, they have the same religion, language and some 'Ottoman' cultural traditions, but that's where the similarity ends. Their food, music, dance and behavior are totally different.




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The black sea coast of Turkey was historically populated by Greeks (pontic Greeks) until early 20th century
True. And unlike most Christian groups under the Ottomans, the Pontics were more receptive to converting to Islam, and a large portion of the people still living there still have Pontic blood.
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Old 06-26-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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Technically it is part of the Mediterranean, Geographically but not Culturally.
I call it the Mediterreanean if the Turkish provinces Istanbul and Balikesir were nothing but water.
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Old 06-26-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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I dunno, I have been to the Black Sea from both sides - now Ukrainian ( Odessa, Kherson,) Russian side ( Sevastopol) and Abkhasian ( then Georgian) side.
Now when I think about it - no, Slavs (Russians\Ukrainians) actually make an impression there of approximately Germans/Swedes making it to the shores of Mediterranean Sea with intended purpose. Likewise, Slavs on the Black sea make an impression of ( originally) some Northern people (who probably made their way to its coast back in the day,) splashing their pasty white bodies in the warm water. They consider it now "rightfully theirs," those warm waters, but they don't come across as "original inhabitants" at all. On a coast belonging to Georgia/Abkhasia ( or Greeks or whoever used to populate that area back in history) everything looks more befitting - the mountains, the sun, the sea, and people with darker skin and more "Southern" cultures.
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Old 06-27-2015, 06:29 AM
 
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Georgian greeks, do they still exist? I believe that Popov was one of them. Quite a pity that Russian don't have any warm place to go, no komsomol for kids. But Crimea was the home of the komsomolky's palaces for pioneers? Maybe now they could send poor kids there.

Black Sea does not look mediterranean, at least Bulgaria and Romania. I don't know about Crimea, Sebastopol, etc.
You are talking about Artek?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artek_%28camp%29

They've restored it recently from what I heard; some of Donbass children were sent there too.
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