A Europe without Finland is not that hard to imagine. A Europe without Greece would not feel like Europe at all (expensive, conditions)
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In this respect, I'm on Greece's side. The Parthenon is their creation and should be admired in the place was made. So in this case we have some thieves as well, but this time is the Brits. And yes, every archaeological artefact should be returned to the place were was discovered, if that country claims this.
The British saved the artefacts from being destroyed. The British have said that if all the Elgin marbles around the world are returned to Greece, and the Greeks can proved they are looked after (the Greeks have poor record in this) they would return them.
But! In the British Museum (probably the finest museum in the world) Greek culture is on display promoting the Greek nation.
The British saved the artefacts from being destroyed. The British have said that if all the Elgin marbles around the world are returned to Greece, and the Greeks can proved they are looked after (the Greeks have poor record in this) they would return them.
You sure you're not intoxicated with propaganda? Saved from what? The ones that have not been removed are now in Acropolis Museum.
Elgin's actions were illegal even according to the Ottoman law of the time:
A study by Professor David Rudenstine of the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law concluded that the premise that Elgin obtained legal title to the marbles, which he then transferred to the British government, "is certainly not established and may well be false".
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But! In the British Museum (probably the finest museum in the world) Greek culture is on display promoting the Greek nation.
I believe, the Parthenon has been under restoration (using the same marbles used 2+ millenia ago) for 20 years. What better way to say the Greeks can take care of this former temple on their own?
The Germans suggested to sell the Parthenon to raise some $ (plus they looted thousands of antiquities in WWII (they are on display in German museums)); the Brits refuse to return one of the most important piece of Greek (and in turn, European) history too. Talking about who the real thieves are..
Uh, I'm sorry but why is a Europe without Finland not that hard to imagine???? Without Finland, Europe would lose the biggest member of the Uralic language family. It wouldn't be the same continent anymore!
Obviously you lack history knowledge.
The Byzantium was based on Greek culture and even later ruled by Greeks. It saved the rest of Europe which was in the dark ages at that time and was pretty much barberic! It held the knowledge and everything else that goes with our modern culture. It fell in 1453.
THere has only been a modern nation of Greece since 1821 and it has been in WW1, ravaged in WW2, a civil war, and a dictatorship. Most nations of Europe haven't done much in that time frame either.
Uh, I'm sorry but why is a Europe without Finland not that hard to imagine???? Without Finland, Europe would lose the biggest member of the Uralic language family. It wouldn't be the same continent anymore!
What? That is a joke! NO COUNTRY IN EUROPE CAN BE COMPARED TO THE OLDEST THAT BEING GREEK!
It has existed for millennia, is extremely rich in vocabulary and many of the scientific terms are based on it.
T"he Greek language holds an important place in the histories of Europe, the more loosely defined Western world, and Christianity; the canon of ancient Greek literature includes works of monumental importance and influence for the future Western canon such as the epic poems Iliad and Odyssey. Greek was also the language in which many of the foundational texts of Western philosophy, such as the Platonic dialogues and the works of Aristotle, were composed; the New Testament of the Christian Bible was written in Koiné Greek. Together with the Latin texts and traditions of the Roman world, the study of the Greek texts and society of antiquity constitutes the discipline of Classics.
During classical antiquity, Greek was a widely spoken lingua franca in the Mediterranean world and beyond. It would eventually become the official parlance of the Byzantine Empire and develop into Medieval Greek. In its modern form, the Greek language,.......
......Greek roots are often used to coin new words for other languages; Greek and Latin are the predominant sources of international scientific vocabulary."
.....Greek words have been widely borrowed into other languages, including English: mathematics, physics, astronomy, democracy, philosophy, athletics, theatre, rhetoric, baptism, evangelist, etc. Moreover, Greek words and word elements continue to be productive as a basis for coinages: anthropology, photography, telephony, isomer, biomechanics, cinematography, etc. and form, with Latin words, the foundation of international scientific and technical vocabulary, e.g. all words ending with –logy ("discourse"). There are many English words of Greek origin, as well as Greek words that have English derivatives."
Obviously you lack history knowledge.
The Byzantium was based on Greek culture and even later ruled by Greeks. It saved the rest of Europe which was in the dark ages at that time and was pretty much barberic! It held the knowledge and everything else that goes with our modern culture. It fell in 1453.
THere has only been a modern nation of Greece since 1821 and it has been in WW1, ravaged in WW2, a civil war, and a dictatorship. Most nations of Europe haven't done much in that time frame either.
What? That is a joke! NO COUNTRY IN EUROPE CAN BE COMPARED TO THE OLDEST THAT BEING GREEK!
It has existed for millennia, is extremely rich in vocabulary and many of the scientific terms are based on it.
T"he Greek language holds an important place in the histories of Europe, the more loosely defined Western world, and Christianity; the canon of ancient Greek literature includes works of monumental importance and influence for the future Western canon such as the epic poems Iliad and Odyssey. Greek was also the language in which many of the foundational texts of Western philosophy, such as the Platonic dialogues and the works of Aristotle, were composed; the New Testament of the Christian Bible was written in Koiné Greek. Together with the Latin texts and traditions of the Roman world, the study of the Greek texts and society of antiquity constitutes the discipline of Classics.
During classical antiquity, Greek was a widely spoken lingua franca in the Mediterranean world and beyond. It would eventually become the official parlance of the Byzantine Empire and develop into Medieval Greek. In its modern form, the Greek language,.......
......Greek roots are often used to coin new words for other languages; Greek and Latin are the predominant sources of international scientific vocabulary."
.....Greek words have been widely borrowed into other languages, including English: mathematics, physics, astronomy, democracy, philosophy, athletics, theatre, rhetoric, baptism, evangelist, etc. Moreover, Greek words and word elements continue to be productive as a basis for coinages: anthropology, photography, telephony, isomer, biomechanics, cinematography, etc. and form, with Latin words, the foundation of international scientific and technical vocabulary, e.g. all words ending with –logy ("discourse"). There are many English words of Greek origin, as well as Greek words that have English derivatives."
Again, that is history and will still be even if Greece is expelled from EU. Fact is, today Greece is a parasitic state while Finland is a productive one. Can this be explained only with the more advantageous climatic conditions of Finland? I don't think. Greece is surrounded by countries, including some at the same latitude, that are all more productive, less lazy. I think the explanation is that the Greeks became too infatuated for their history and heritage and now they consider that these (the history and heritage) absolve them from duty of working.
Again, that is history and will still be even if Greece is expelled from EU. Fact is, today Greece is a parasitic state while Finland is a productive one. Can this be explained only with the more advantageous climatic conditions of Finland? I don't think. Greece is surrounded by countries, including some at the same latitude, that are all more productive, less lazy. I think the explanation is that the Greeks became too infatuated for their history and heritage and now they consider that these (the history and heritage) absolve them from duty of working.
Fyi.. Greeks, at least the ones of the 'diaspora', are some of the most hard working people everywhere. The ones left behind, are mostly victims of Politics/manipulation by the politicians, who in many ways take order from the Europeans (same manipulation started when they installed Otto of Bavaria as their King, shortly after the revolution(look it up)).
For example, the 3 mil(give and take) Greeks in the US, have elected a vice president, almost a president, numerous congressmen and have excelled for years. What did the Fins or Romanians accomplish? Get your facts straight... times have changed and today's smaller countries struggle to adopt to this NWO/reality.
You surely don't want us to start discussing Ceausescu?
Fyi.. Greeks, at least the ones of the 'diaspora', are some of the most hard working people everywhere.
Same can be said by any nation's diaspora.
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The ones left behind, are mostly victims of Politics/manipulation by the politicians, who in many ways take order from the Europeans (same manipulation started when they installed Otto of Bavaria as their King, shortly after the revolution(look it up)).
Romanians too have had German kings in late 19th - first half of 20th century. It was not imposed and Romanians loved these kings. Denying one's own or nation's deficiency, looking around for scapegoats when is obvious that is an internal problem, this is what you and WWD are doing and is typical for individuals and nations with low level of education and moral standards.
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For example, the 3 mil(give and take) Greeks in the US, have elected a vice president, almost a president, numerous congressmen and have excelled for years. What did the Fins or Romanians accomplish?
No doubt, that was achieved because Greek culture's notoriety. Have the Romanians or Fins done the same things the Greeks done, they wouldn't succeed. But today, Finland and Romania proves themselves as true hard working nations. Romania, as stated before, is the fastest growing economy in Europe. Everything is moving fast here, too fast for my taste actually but that is another story.
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Get your facts straight... times have changed and today's smaller countries struggle to adopt to this NWO/reality.
It seems only Greece has problem with ther NWO, maybe because it exists only at the level of Greece's imagination.
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