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In countries like US people live to work, everyone tries to rob each other - you go to hospital they rip you off, you go buy a house, they rip off again big time, you want to put your kids through a school - schools suck, even though you pay crazy amount of money in property taxes, so you ripped off again. And so on.
The post-Soviet generation has the same life values. We earn money, we baptize our children (although sometimes we are not baptized) and we try not to ask for help from the state. I think that the Soviet people remained in the past.
The post-Soviet generation has the same life values. We earn money, we baptize our children (although sometimes we are not baptized) and we try not to ask for help from the state. I think that the Soviet people remained in the past.
I know, and it sucks, as it's a road to nowhere.
Russia should really follow Scandinavian model, rather than US wild west one.
If you want to see "crazy amount of money" paid in property taxes and income taxes, try Europe, not the US. Just because you're not used to taxes doesn't mean the US has "crazy" level of taxes. If it did, the country would be in better shape. And btw, under Yeltsin, the tax rate for small businesses and cooperatives, and for the self-employed (independent artists, etc.) was around 80-90%.
You have no idea what you are talking about again.
Europe property taxes are tiny fraction of what most Americans pay, yet they have schools system which most US folks can only dream of. It's one of the reason more and more retirees from US move to Europe and denounce their US citizenship.
Same goes for 80-90% under Yeltsin - try to read something else besides your BS American media.
You have no idea what you are talking about again.
Europe property taxes are tiny fraction of what most Americans pay, yet they have schools system which most US folks can only dream of. It's one of the reason more and more retirees from US move to Europe and denounce their US citizenship.
Same goes for 80-90% under Yeltsin - try to read something else besides your BS American media.
The US media has no idea what taxation levels were under Yeltsin, and they don't care, nor did they back in the 90's. The only change between the USSR and the Yeltsin era taxation-wise was that the previously hidden taxes came out in the open. It was Putin who rolled taxes back, to some extent. New small businesses and cooperatives were crushed under the tax burden, prior to that.
Retirees move to Europe because they're retired, therefore no longer earning taxable income. For them it can be a good deal, depending on the country. Still, they're subject to taxes they wouldn't have to pay at home, like VAT, exorbitant taxes on cars and licensing in Scandinavia, etc. Retirees who need to keep costs down don't move to Europe so much as Latin America. Depending on the European country, of course.
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You have no idea what you are talking about again.
Europe property taxes are tiny fraction of what most Americans pay, yet they have schools system which most US folks can only dream of. It's one of the reason more and more retirees from US move to Europe and denounce their US citizenship.
None of this is true.
European property taxes vary widely by country. Overall taxes are far higher in Europe.
Primary schooling in Europe isn't better than in the U.S. And it has nothing to do with property taxes.
And there aren't many U.S. retirees in Europe, there aren't many U.S. citizens renouncing their citizenship, and it has nothing to do with property taxes or primary education.
European property taxes vary widely by country. Overall taxes are far higher in Europe.
Primary schooling in Europe isn't better than in the U.S. And it has nothing to do with property taxes.
Primary schooling in the US is one of the worst among developed nations, confirmed by PISA findings.
At the same US property taxes are the highest, which is primary source for public school funding - these taxes are basically stolen from people.
Same goes for income taxes - they are routed to defense sector, where they also get stolen by major defense contractors. For this "system" to function CIA and corrupted mass media spend billions every year on creating an enemy image from countries like Russia, China etc., so that there's a spending "target".
European taxes may appear higher overall, however anyone with basic math skills can easily see that Europeans get so many free social services that it becomes clear they are actually taxed at much lower level.
European taxes may appear higher overall, however anyone with basic math skills can easily see that Europeans get so many free social services that it becomes clear they are actually taxed at much lower level.
They aren't taxed at a lower level but they definitely get more, um...."bang" for their buck. (It's just an expression, lol.)
The US media has no idea what taxation levels were under Yeltsin, and they don't care, nor did they back in the 90's. The only change between the USSR and the Yeltsin era taxation-wise was that the previously hidden taxes came out in the open. It was Putin who rolled taxes back, to some extent. New small businesses and cooperatives were crushed under the tax burden, prior to that.
Whatever you get your information from is bad source. Russia never had 90% taxes, ever. Under Yeltsin taxes were in 35-45% bracket, under Putin they went to 24-35% level.
Small/medium business has issues in Russia mostly due to high levels of usury, has nothing to do with taxation, in Europe business taxes are even higher.
Whatever you get your information from is bad source. Russia never had 90% taxes, ever. Under Yeltsin taxes were in 35-45% bracket, under Putin they went to 24-35% level.
Small/medium business has issues in Russia mostly due to high levels of usury, has nothing to do with taxation, in Europe business taxes are even higher.
I got my info from a number of people who started up small businesses and co-ops during the Yeltsin era, and from self-employed artists. There was so much excitement during that time about the freedom to become business owners, but it was all dashed by the tax requirements. By "taxes" employers meant not only taxes on business income but also the equivalent of "social security" contributions for employees, and so forth.
The post-Soviet generation has the same life values. We earn money, we baptize our children (although sometimes we are not baptized) and we try not to ask for help from the state. I think that the Soviet people remained in the past.
And if you "ask for help from the state"? What happens then?
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