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Old 09-08-2015, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Can you please provide us with sources of your information?



Don't they have to make it to the country first, in order to "register as refugee?" Isn't this huge crowd that swarmed Europe and that we are observing for the last couple of weeks is demanding to do just that - to MAKE it to Germany, in order to "register as refugee?"
I just posted the BBC article stating that 4/10 refugee applications in Germany between January and July 2015 were from Balkan countries. And don't even try to attack BBC's credibility because they have been overwhelming (and alarmingly) pro-migrant.
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:39 PM
 
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I just posted the BBC article stating that 4/10 refugee applications in Germany between January and July 2015 were from Balkan countries. And don't even try to attack BBC's credibility because they have been overwhelming (and alarmingly) pro-migrant.
OK, let's go over it one more time, slowly.
The article is covering period FROM JANUARY TO JULY.
What I am talking about, is AUGUST. The crisis, that were were watching unfolding the last moth, particularly the second part of it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQj1xvQth6Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_78QM2PPaU


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Yeah - that kind of stuff.

What you and Nola are trying to talk about is a change of subject.
Is there immigration coming to Northern Europe from Balkan countries? Yes it does, 4 out of ten refugee applications. (And even in this case - what are the other 6 out of 10?)
But that's not the kind of refugee crisis we discuss, comes August.

This is far more representative in terms of people who are seeking refugee status in Europe during the last month - in this following video. And it ain't ( overwhelmingly so) "people from Balkans."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAPY0MZFmM0
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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OK, let's go over it one more time, slowly.
The article is covering period FROM JANUARY TO JULY.
What I am talking about, is AUGUST. The crisis, that were were watching unfolding the last moth, particularly the second part of it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQj1xvQth6Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_78QM2PPaU


^
Yeah - that kind of stuff.

What you and Nola are trying to talk about is a change of subject.
Is there immigration coming to Northern Europe from Balkan countries? Yes it does, 4 out of ten refugee applications. (And even in this case - what are the other 6 out of 10?)
But that's not the kind of refugee crisis we discuss, comes August.

This is far more representative in terms of people who are seeking refugee status in Europe during the last month - in this following video. And it ain't ( overwhelmingly so) "people from Balkans."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAPY0MZFmM0
Look, all I'm saying is that 4/10 of the migrants had been from the Balkans through July. Those are the most updated statistics, but why would you think this crisis becoming a huge media issue would cause those numbers to drop? If anything, more people from the Balkans (and other parts of the world) are being mobilized by Chancellor Merkel's open arms policy. The fake Syrian passport trade is booming right now. I watched your videos and don't see what about them refutes this.

Concern over burgeoning trade in fake and stolen Syrian passports | World news | The Guardian
The big passport scam: Pakistanis dumping IDs to become Syrian
Non-Syrian refugees scrapping national identities, using fake passports
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:12 PM
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Because Israel already fights muslims tooth and nail as it is.



Because these are the countries that contributed to the demise of the Middle East.




Money. Funding for the "rebels," that at the end try to establish Islamic regimes throughout the area, once the "disposed dictator" is gone.
Isreal, Qatar and SaudiArabia amongst others are providing rebels in Syria... NONE of 3 mentioned have taken any refugees... The US undermining Khadafi IS responsible for the aftermath and now we have africans dying in the mediteranian.... all for the petrodollar.. It's a sick world But your precious Isreal is not innocent
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:30 PM
 
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Isreal, Qatar and SaudiArabia amongst others are providing rebels in Syria... NONE of 3 mentioned have taken any refugees... The US undermining Khadafi IS responsible for the aftermath and now we have africans dying in the mediteranian.... all for the petrodollar.. It's a sick world But your precious Isreal is not innocent
Muslims are at war with the only Jewish state, why would Israel bring more Muslims within its border. That would be suicidal.

"Judgment Day will come only when the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, until the Jew hides behind the tree and the stone, and the tree and the stone say: ‘Oh Muslim, Oh servant of Allah , there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him'". - Muhammad
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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OK, let's go over it one more time, slowly.
The article is covering period FROM JANUARY TO JULY.
What I am talking about, is AUGUST. The crisis, that were were watching unfolding the last moth, particularly the second part of it.
Germany is reporting right now that half of applicants are from Europe. Sorry if this doesn't fit into your wacky worldview.

I assume your response will either be "yeah but the BBC and Germany are obviously anti-immigrant and liars" or "yeah but now it's September, so let's forget about the August numbers; I'm sure everyone in the Balkans lost their smartphones/GPS and can no longer locate Germany on a map."
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:57 PM
 
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Germany is reporting right now that half of applicants are from Europe. Sorry if this doesn't fit into your wacky worldview.
Links please.

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I assume your response will either be "yeah but the BBC and Germany are obviously anti-immigrant and liars"
BBC said 4 in 10 ( but monthly numbers? did they give it on average from January to July? Can we compare them with the ratio in August including to get a better picture?
No, it's not about BBC "lying," - it's about YOU twisting the agenda from my point of view.
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Old 09-08-2015, 09:11 PM
 
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Wouldn't it be ironic. If native Europeans begin to desire immigration to the US, Canada and Australia in the future? Basically who did the original migrations in the first place....(yes I realize Native Americans Indians commonly called, came first). Due to having their culture and religion persecuted?

Stranger things have happened......
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:47 AM
 
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Links please.
Links have been repeatedly posted, and I assume you have the capability of googling.

The official August numbers for Germany indicate that more than 4 in 10 asylum applicants to Germany are from the Balkans, and the numbers for Eastern Europe as a whole are higher still.

Top German Immigration Official on*Influx of Syrian Refugees - SPIEGEL ONLINE
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BBC said 4 in 10 ( but monthly numbers? did they give it on average from January to July? Can we compare them with the ratio in August including to get a better picture?
Who gives a crap? You are trying to imply that the actual recorded data, which is as recent as one week ago, is not indicative of the current migration trends, which is absurd. There is no change in geopolitics in the last few weeks. Macedonia didn't magically become a rich country Sept. 1.

If you have a problem with the data, then it's incumbent on you to challenge the data, rather than put your head in the sand and pretend the data doesn't exist.
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No, it's not about BBC "lying," - it's about YOU twisting the agenda from my point of view.
And by "twisting the agenda" you mean stating actual data recorded by Germany as they process migrants. You prefer just wildly guessing in the absence of any data, since the facts don't fit your wacky agenda.
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:07 AM
 
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We are doomed (Budapest central station):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tVEhXF_Yrk
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