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Old 09-14-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Maine
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I want to know why white Americans are so concerned about Europe's demographic future when so many, if not most, of these posters' families are all in the US and have been here for at least 3 generations? I'm 2nd generation American on my mother's side, know the majority of my German relatives, yet I don't really concern myself with how Germany is handling its Muslim demographic seems like that's mostly the concern of some Europeans themselves, and Americans of European ancestry (whose ancestors came in the 1800s)
My only concern with Europe is for my Son, and Grandson, who will be at just about the right age to have to go over there and save there stupid @sses when there latest socialist experiment fails and leads to WW3.




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Old 09-14-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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Not true. The U.S. doesn't have comparable Muslim immigrant numbers as Europe. The U.S. gets far less Middle Eastern migration than Europe, and unlike Europe, most Middle Eastern migrants to the U.S. are Christian.

The U.S. (and Canada, Australia, and others) also frankly do a better job at integrating immigrants (which should be expected, as the U.S. isn't nation-state like most European states, and doesn't have a shared ethnic heritage and culture like most European states).
Communities being smaller doesn't mean they do not exist. Muslims are nut that rare in the US. And are much better integrated than Hispanics by example. In Europe is the the other way around. It has all to do with number. Evil is not wrong doing its the number
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Old 09-14-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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Not true.
Then I can only recommend you to read a book of European history.

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There were no Middle Eastern tribesman invading and subjugating the Germanic tribes. Germany was fairly homogeneous. Upwards of 95% of people living in Germany claimed Germanic descent, and nearly 100% were either Catholic or Lutheran until very recently.
Germany ≠Europe.

And consider a Lutheran and Catholic population as an homogeneous country, is fairly questionable, when they have spent centuries warring among themselves. Even nowadays in this forum there are American users that do not consider Catholics as Christians.


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The insane justifications people will give (the Neolithic era! ) to justify the spread of radical Islam into Europe and to excuse the domestic demographic decline are just beyond the pale.

Next someone will claim that the saber-tooth tigers and T-Rex were no different than ISIS, therefore Europe has nothing to worry about...
Europeans have dealt and survived centuries of Christian fundamentalism, so they can deal with Islamic fundamentalism. Nothing to worry about.

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Old 09-14-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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I guess that the Europe "kidnapped and raped by leftists and muslims" is an unreal and the US they envisage. Probably, their vision of their own country is equally deranged, to say the least. Not to talk about history, nobody ask anybody to know European history but at least they should know a bare minimum. It seems that many are educated by priests or sects.
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Old 09-14-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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I personally don't care how Europe handles their refugees.

However, you don't hear a lot of issues with American Muslims because the US is better at assimilating our immigrants. When people are assimilated into their new society, and are able make a decent living to support their family, they have a stake in the game and less likely to cause trouble. Europe has no clue how to do that with their immigrants.
I don't agree with that at all. Muslims aside, Hispanic immigrants aren't all that assiminlated because we've roled out the carpet for them in terms of job opportunities and "se habla espanol, presione el nĂºmero dos". Of course with no official language in the US, no surprise on that 2nd one.

Hispanic illegals aren't even required to know a word of English to attend our schools.
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Old 09-14-2015, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Not true. There were no Middle Eastern tribesman invading and subjugating the Germanic tribes. Germany was fairly homogeneous. Upwards of 95% of people living in Germany claimed Germanic descent, and nearly 100% were either Catholic or Lutheran until very recently.

The insane justifications people will give (the Neolithic era! ) to justify the spread of radical Islam into Europe and to excuse the domestic demographic decline are just beyond the pale.

Next someone will claim that the saber-tooth tigers and T-Rex were no different than ISIS, therefore Europe has nothing to worry about...
Have you heard of Attila ?

And the barbarian times ? When the Roman Empire collapsed ?

Did you know that Spain was muslim for centuries ?

And that pre-WWII Germany had a fairly important non-christian population ? They were also erased for not being germanic enough...

What about mass industrial revolution-immigrations in the 19th century ?

And France and England colonizing most of Africa for a couple of centuries ? Wasn't it an invasion ?



I know many Americans are not very well-versed in history, but come on...
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Old 09-14-2015, 12:24 PM
 
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Communities being smaller doesn't mean they do not exist. Muslims are nut that rare in the US. And are much better integrated than Hispanics by example. In Europe is the the other way around. It has all to do with number. Evil is not wrong doing its the number
Tell that to the non Muslims in Dearborn, MI
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Old 09-14-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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Europe has no clue how to do that with their immigrants.
Europa does not work as a single country with homogeneous societies, some countries know how cope with immigrants, some not.

Just look at the French government, one Moroccan, one Spanish and the son of a Romanian inmigrant. The mayor of Paris is Spanish. Sarkozy, son of a Hungarian immigrant.
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Old 09-14-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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My only concern with Europe is for my Son, and Grandson, who will be at just about the right age to have to go over there and save there stupid @sses when there latest socialist experiment fails and leads to WW3.




bill
What? Europe can take care of itself, it's not Americas lap dog.
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Old 09-14-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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I don't agree with that at all. Muslims aside, Hispanic immigrants aren't all that assiminlated because we've roled out the carpet for them in terms of job opportunities and "se habla espanol, presione el nĂºmero dos". Of course with no official language in the US, no surprise on that 2nd one.

Hispanic illegals aren't even required to know a word of English to attend our schools.
Yeah! Your right, they don't adopt the American way of life and make no effort to speak English in public. I also find Indians to be bad at assimilation.
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