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The huge immigration Germany had from the east has been declining, now immigration is growing again, more proof they need immigrants.
Even if this is true there are better quality people on this planet. Why dont they start bringing SE Asians? They are educated, hard working, peaceful and come without pseudo political ideology.
Detroit has a growing population and has never been larger, so there goes that theory. The U.S. has a birth rate above replacement level, so does not need "mass immigration". The largest source of recent immigration to the U.S. is Asia, not Latin America.
And those pics are stupid. The Germany pic is obviously some closed factory. The Eastern Europe pic just shows poverty, and has zero to do with population trends. The Cleveland/Detroit pics just show boarded up commercial buildings, and has zero to do with population trends.
Detroit peak metro population 1970 - 4,490,982
2010 - 4,296,250
I believe the metro area has grown in space area by 20% since 1970 adding to the abandonment.
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Even if this is true there are better quality people on this planet. Why dont they start bringing SE Asians? They are educated, hard working, peaceful and come without pseudo political ideology.
100% correct. Europe should have no problem recruiting immigrants from almost anywhere it wants. Why even bother with North Africa and the Middle East when they have better options.
Detroit peak metro population 1970 - 4,490,982
2010 - 4,296,250
I believe the metro area has grown in space area by 20% since 1970 adding to the abandonment.
Nope. Detroit's current population is at peak by CSA. MSA is below peak but that contains the older counties only.
Metro Detroit actually has significantly higher growth than most nearby metros, which surprises people. Metro Detroit has a higher growth rate than Chicago, and much higher growth rate than Cleveland or Pittsburgh.
Every single claim I've made, I have posted links to back my claims up.
No, you posted a bunch of silly photoshopped pictures and claimed that Europe had to be flooded with immigrants or the economy would die.
Then your "evidence" was Germany, which has the best economy in Europe, yet the worst population loss. Not a very good example. Then you claimed the U.S. had population decline. You're just randomly making up stuff.
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Originally Posted by fagrance
Show me a study that shows that population decline does not lead to dying economies.
Germany has population decline. Germany has a great economy. End of thread.
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Originally Posted by fagrance
Show me a study that shows that America without immigration would not be collapsing as we speak.
The U.S. has above-replacement birth rates. The U.S. has a growing population if you completely exclude immigration. End of Thread, Part 2.
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Originally Posted by fagrance
(I showed you a study from the Stanford University published by the Wall Street Journal that in fact the Rust
Belt is dying out in all aspects because of population decline in the region)
No you didn't. You did no such thing. Your posted article never made such claims. The Rust Belt is growing, BTW.
Nope. Detroit's current population is at peak by CSA. MSA is below peak but that contains the older counties only.
Metro Detroit actually has significantly higher growth than most nearby metros, which surprises people. Metro Detroit has a higher growth rate than Chicago, and much higher growth rate than Cleveland or Pittsburgh.
You have no source, so here you go. Your incorrect.
The region(CSA) peaked in 2000, metro 1970 and the city 1950.
Metro Detroit has not been growing faster than metro Chicago. Chicago metro population in 1970 was 7.6 million in 2010 it was 9.4 million. Look at Detroit's numbers.
No, you posted a bunch of silly photoshopped pictures and claimed that Europe had to be flooded with immigrants or the economy would die.
Then your "evidence" was Germany, which has the best economy in Europe, yet the worst population loss. Not a very good example. Then you claimed the U.S. had population decline. You're just randomly making up stuff.
Germany has population decline. Germany has a great economy. End of thread.
The U.S. has above-replacement birth rates. The U.S. has a growing population if you completely exclude immigration. End of Thread, Part 2.
No you didn't. You did no such thing. Your posted article never made such claims. The Rust Belt is growing, BTW.
RT is Putin's propaganda site, so no. It's about as truthful as the ISIS Daily Times.
Good points. Germany's highly productive economy relies on high highly skilled workers, such as engineers, computer programmers, doctors, nurses rather than construction workers and maids, not to say that the latter are not important and needed but the first definitely make up the big bulk of the GPA.
I believe the below article is what Germany is worried about. Read the sentence where it states that the graying of Japan will cost 50% of all household income for social welfare for the elderly. Were talking economic collapse in Japan.
Low birth rate threat to Japanese economy
Waterloo Region Record
TOKYO — Japan's economic growth rate may turn negative from the 2040s if its birth rate does not recover and the productivity of its workers does not improve, according to a government panel on the aging and declining population.
Germany has good economy and aging population, but Germany's economy would not exist without "Gastarbeiters". Other "arbeiters" in the past were not "Gast" as many French recall.
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