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Bad blood seems to be mostly buried between Ukraine and Poland, as Ukraine and Poland today share a common cause against putin's Eurasian empire.
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Nevertheless Ukraine honors those ukrainian butchers which made up Volyn massacre as a national heroes.
Do you think that Poles don't rememeber how it was and who is responsible for that?
Ordinary people remember it very well. And as we know Poles are very spiteful. They never forget anything.
Nevertheless Ukraine honors those ukrainian butchers which made up Volyn massacre as a national heroes.
Do you think that Poles don't rememeber how it was and who is responsible for that?
Ordinary people remember it very well. And as we know Poles are very spiteful. They never forget anything.
UPA were heroes, although I am not going to comment on or endorse every single thing they did. As always, history is presented as very one-sided. It was, in fact, a war among multiple warring factions. I began my post by acknowledging the bad blood, from which you may infer an acknowledgement of mutual grievances.
Poles are not innocent anyway, since the Polish occupiers also killed Ukrainians, occupied Ukrainian lands, and this very act is clearly part of a mutual conflict.
Case in point:
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In order to carry out retaliatory actions against Ukrainian aggressors, Polish partisans created self-defense formations. Retaliation, however, was carried out inch for inch, and was ‘hardly less fierce’. Warnings to Ukrainians made in 1943 stated that every village burned would result in two Ukrainian villages being razed, and for every Pole killed, two Ukrainians would be killed in his place immediately. Orders issued in February of 1944 by Polish Home Army commander Lt. Kazimierz Babinski said only children would be spared; however, a month later a massacre by Polish partisans occurred in Kholm killing 1,500, of which 70% were women and children. .... By the middle of 1944 the feeling of many Poles was that they would still retake or even extend territory into Ukraine. That summer approximately 150 villages, home to 15,000 Ukrainians, had been razed in so-called retaliatory measures. Attacks aimed at eliminating civilian populations were not uncommon from the Polish side.
By late 1945 and into 1946, the modus operandi of the Polish Army was to attack UPA units in order to justify attacking Ukrainian settlements, wait for Ukrainian retaliation, and use that as further justification for “retaliation.â€
All said, when comparing the most modest of findings, over 50 thousand Polish in comparison to a rough excess of 40 thousand Ukrainian casualties (and recalling the tens of thousands of additional Ukrainians who were killed in intra-ethnic violence), further illustrates the mutually exhaustive nature ethnic cleansing was for both sides in this conflict
the same to them.
Oh do you consider Polish butchers to be heroes too?
You are so patriotic as I see! That's great! Why are you still in the USA? Ukraine needs you. Your country have very bad times.
Only you can stop Putin and glorify the Ukraine!
[quote=snj90;43248648]I see... and Russian terrorists in Donbas? Am I to assume you're okay with them? [/url]
i'm not okay with all kind of butchers which are in Donbass. And it's no matter for me which side did they took
Why don't you go there and save your country?
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What do you think of what the Red Army did?
they saved the world from Hitler. I think that nice. You are welcome to thank us.
By the way how many Ukrainians were in the Red Army?
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You are playing a stupid game. War is ugly, but it's as old as humankind.
That does not approve war crimes for me.
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