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Old 01-11-2016, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 4043 N
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I'm just curious about what branch picture would be mor elikely to be close to the truth.
There are some who show Celtic, Romanic and Germanic languages having a common ancestor, like this one:

http://language.cs.auckland.ac.nz/fi...ognateRate.png
What we did | Mapping the origin of Indo-European

Plus, some others show Romanic, Celtic and Anatolian languages having a common ancestor, while Germanic and Slavic share common ancestors as well:

https://anthropologynet.files.wordpr...amily-tree.jpg
The Indo-European Branches of the Language Tree | Anthropology.net

So, let's have a discuss about that.
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Old 01-11-2016, 05:03 PM
 
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It depends on how you break it down, OP. All of the above are true.


Balto-Slavic and Germanic have a common ancestor, and Italic (or Romanic) would be another branch on that level, that sprouted branches of its own. Push farther back, and you get to languages like Anatolian and Tocharian. Push farther back in time, and you get to Proto-Indo-European and proto-Indo-Persian.
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Old 01-12-2016, 05:29 AM
 
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The existence of the Indo European family of languages is the worst thing to ever happen to linguistics. The very existence.
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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The existence of the Indo European family of languages is the worst thing to ever happen to linguistics. The very existence.
So, do you think the rest of families of languages from all over the world are better than Indo-European ones?
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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It depends on how you break it down, OP. All of the above are true.


Balto-Slavic and Germanic have a common ancestor, and Italic (or Romanic) would be another branch on that level, that sprouted branches of its own.
Gray Atkinson do not agree with that, but both Italic and Germanic languages being closer to each other rather than anything else:

http://armchairprehistory.com/wp-con...ee-300x225.gif
Indo-European wheel words
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Old 01-14-2016, 05:56 AM
 
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So, do you think the rest of families of languages from all over the world are better than Indo-European ones?
All are, and with the exception of English and Scandinavians, the speakers of these European languages are filled with so much toxic arrogance and worthlessness I feel no reason to respect them.
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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All are, and with the exception of English and Scandinavians, the speakers of these European languages are filled with so much toxic arrogance and worthlessness I feel no reason to respect them.
lol!
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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A lot of languages are left out of those charts, I notice. The minor Romance languages that we've discussed on this forum, like the ones in Italy, France and Spain, aren't there. Romansch is rarely included. And the languages in Pakistan and Afghanistan, like Dardic, never appear on those charts. There's so much diversity, it's fascinating. I'd love to see charts that included all the languages. I suspect Dardic is descended from Tocharian, but I haven't seen that discussed anywhere.



Dardic languages can be organized into the following subfamilies:[SIZE=2][8][/SIZE]In other classifications, Pashai may be included within Kunar, and Kashmiri within Shina. Khetrani may be a remnant Dardic language in the Siraiki region.
Kohistan is a Persian word that means ‘land of mountains’; Kohistani can be translated as ‘mountain people’ or ‘mountain language’ and is popularly used to refer to several distinct languages in the mountain areas of Northern Pakistan, including Maiya, Kalami, and Torwali
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Old 01-14-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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All are, and with the exception of English and Scandinavians, the speakers of these European languages are filled with so much toxic arrogance and worthlessness I feel no reason to respect them.
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lol!
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Old 01-14-2016, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 4043 N
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All are, and with the exception of English and Scandinavians, the speakers of these European languages are filled with so much toxic arrogance and worthlessness I feel no reason to respect them.
I don't think so. Anyway, if what you say is true, then people from South America would learn Guarani or other indigenous languages from America, and same with people from African countries which still speak either French or English.
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