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Old 01-31-2016, 01:54 PM
 
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lol, don't think to be an authority because as a non-American and non-Russian I am certainly less biased and more impartial than you.
Really? I'm a non-American and non-Russian too.

What citizenship do you claim that allows you this magical gift of "impartiality"?

This should be good, especially because you already lied about what happened in Ukraine, delusionally claiming that the U.S. somehow caused the Ukranian revolution, a claim which is only made by the Kremlin and no one else in the world. Very impartial of you, to exactly parrot the Kremlin propaganda!

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Second, nobody is justifying anything and your same argument suggests how weak your arguments are: to sum the Russian foreign policy up to 'invasions of neighbouring countries and imperialism' is an argument that 12 years old kid would bring forth so not really relevant to the thread either.
LOL! So a discussion of Russia, according to you, should not involve any discussion of Russian domestic or foreign policy, but rather should focus on American domestic and foreign policy?

I would say that 12 year old kid is pretty smart then, as at least he has the good sense to understand the thread topic!

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Old 01-31-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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Sorry, the World Bank, UN, etc. do not rate the US as the richest. And it depends on what measure you use, as well.
Except they do list the U.S. as the richest major country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...PP)_per_capita

In fact even your link shows that you are lying, and the U.S. is the wealthiest major nation. Wealthiest sizable countries would be (in order) U.S., Germany, Canada, Australia, UK, France. And the gap has probably increased in the last few years, because U.S. growth has been stronger than all those other nations.

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Old 01-31-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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In fact even your link shows that you are lying,.
Interesting. I never provided a link.
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Old 01-31-2016, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Vik
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That's your wishful thinking. In the age of nuclear weapons Russia is perfectly equipped to control the US.


You'd be surprised to learn how many nations will be willing to play a different game, demanding the "bigger share of the pie" or simply "feeling betrayed" by the US. ( I am talking Arab countries first of all.)


I hate to clue you, but nobody admires or respects a nation for its nuclear arsenal.


And the US doesn`t need to control Russia. Russia is doing a perfect job heading down the drain themselves. The US can just sit back and relax and watch it all happen - again.
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Old 01-31-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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I hate to clue you, but nobody admires or respects a nation for its nuclear arsenal.
It's not about "respect or admiration." It's all down to pure business - nothing else.


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And the US doesn`t need to control Russia. Russia is doing a perfect job heading down the drain themselves. The US can just sit back and relax and watch it all happen - again.
Yes, it does, as much as Russia needs to control the US. It's all about "checks and balances" in the world after all. What the US DID NOT need to do however, was to play dirty games, and under the pretenses of "freedom and democracy" to try to eliminate Russia as a potential world competitor ( and thus - the controlling force) once and for all. The rest is going to be the consequences for the US for it. You shake hands with the devil, you invite the devil in your own house.
In each and every sense of it.

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Old 01-31-2016, 03:14 PM
 
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If there ever was going to be a "counter-US" force in the world today - it sure will not be anything coming from Russia.


Kremls self-enlightened role as a counterweight to anything influenced by the US .
Russia has never claimed to be wishing to control anyone, including US. It's US who interferes and kills people all over the world under false pretense of bringing "democracy' to places which never asked for it. Russia also does not need anyone's "recognition" or "respect" either - they are self sufficient, powerful, unique culture with their own beautiful way of life.


Look at the map, if you know what map is, RF is the biggest and most powerful country in the world already, and will always be. Not by dumb western measures like GDP of course, GDP only measures the stupidity of the western world which already polluted most of earth with its endless greed and over consumption, but this will also end soon.
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Old 01-31-2016, 03:38 PM
 
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Anybody ever look at what this oil crisis is doing to countries like Canada? They aren't faring well either. Saudi Arabia is involved with ISIL and that little spat with Yemen. They're being bled dry.

I agree with a prior poster (Ruth or Erasure), enjoy the cheap gas while you can this won't last forever.

This year may be tough on all concerned and the hardship may last longer but in Russia the defense budget and social services are untouchable when it comes to cutting. Russia still has a lot left in it's rainy day fund and they can cut a lot before they have to touch that.
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Old 01-31-2016, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Sorry, the World Bank, UN, etc. do not rate the US as the richest. And it depends on what measure you use, as well.


Most indebted nations: 1. US (With over 3 times the debt of the next country on the list. And no, it's not due to the US being a much larger nation.)


Richest nations by per-capita GDP:
1. Qatar
2. Luxembourg
3. Singapore
4. Brunei
5. Kuwait
6. Norway
7. United Arab Emirates
8. San Marino
9. Switzerland
10. Hong Kong.




Richest nations by GDP: 1. China
The US has a GDP per capita of $54,000 vs China $13,000. China has 1.3 billion people for crying out loud, 4 times the size of the US, it should have the largest GDP. The US is 11 on this list. The top 10 are either small nations or small oil rich nations. The US has an average debt to GDP ratio for an advanced nation. It's debt is no better or worse than it's peer nations. Of course it has the largest debt. It's economy and population is much larger than Canada, Germany, England, Japan etc.. Your very misleading.

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Old 01-31-2016, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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For you Ruth

Global trends[edit]
Federal Debt: Total Public Debt as Percent of Gross Domestic Product
General government debt in percent of GDP, of the United States.
In 2013, United States public debt-to-GDP ratio was 71.8%, according to the CIA World Factbook,[2] or 104.5%, according to the IMF including external debt.[3] The level of public debt in Japan 2013 was 243.2% of GDP, in China 22.4% and in India 66.7%, according to the IMF,[4] while the public debt-to-GDP ratio in 2013 was at 76.9% of GDP in Germany, 87.2% in the United Kingdom, 92.2% in France and 127.9% in Italy, according to Eurostat.[5]

Two thirds of US public debt is owned by US citizens, banks, corporations, and the Federal Reserve Bank;[6] approximately one third of US public debt is held by foreign countries - particularly China and Japan. Conversely, less than 5% of Japanese public debt is held by foreign countries.

Particularly in macroeconomics, various debt-to-GDP ratios can be calculated. The most commonly used ratio is the Government debt divided by the gross domestic product (GDP), which reflects the government's finances, while another common ratio is the total debt to GDP, which reflects the finances of the nation as a whole.
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Old 01-31-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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The US has a GDP per capita of $54,000 vs China $13,000. China has 1.3 billion people for crying out loud, 4 times the size of the US, it should have the largest GDP. The US is 11 on this list. The top 10 are either small nations or small oil rich nations. The US has an average debt to GDP ratio for an advanced nation. It's debt is no better or worse than it's peer nations. Of course it has the largest debt. It's economy and population is much larger than Canada, Germany, England, Japan etc.. Your very misleading.
I guess you didn't see my comment that where which country rates depends on how you measure it. And somehow you missed my two categories: GDP per capita (where US still ranks below about 10 nations), and overall GDP. You also missed my comment that it's debt isn't due to being a larger nation. What part of the quoted post did you read, exactly?


You must be the only person in the US who isn't aware that a very solid chunk of the US debt is due to the wars that have been going on since Bush II.
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