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Yeah well Germany leaving the EU is a viable option too.I won't complain at all if this happens.
I don't want to sound like an anti-UK obsessed maniac who supports eagerly France/Germany as there is NO reason for me to support them.
Only problem...Germany control the EU and won't let anyone leave unless it's country of their rank: such as UK. It's like expecting Russia to leave the USSR back in the days. With that being said, westerners(germans) shouldn't overestimate their influence over EE, because we've seen it happen before (pre 1945...).
To those unaware how is this related to the benefits supposed issue: Well, no EU = no conspiracy theory of benefits.
It's absurd to say that Germany controls the EU. And what this for a BS that Germany should leave the EU?
It's absurd to say that Germany controls the EU. And what this for a BS that Germany should leave the EU?
Then who?? Even kids know the EU is run by France/Germany and the UK is acting as an opposition.
Bulgaria, Romania and the better-off EE(Central) states are used solely for cheap manual labour, market to sell old german cars, stuff etc. or easy targets for spreading propaganda.
Like I said: Germany won't leave as it benefits from it greatly...which defies the need for conspiracy theories of the "evil eastern europeans". So since Germany can pass any rule it wants, even today with the UK still in the union.
It's absurd to say that Germany controls the EU. And what this for a BS that Germany should leave the EU?
In a world where there is nothing for nothing, I really wonder why Germany would accept contributing to the EU the large sums of money Germans often complain about if they didn't get anything bigger and greater in return. I strongly suspect that the "return on investment" isn't humanistic satisfaction, or the defense western/democratic values, but rather something much materialistic. Germans know better and there's nothing wrong with that, but let's just cut the hypocrisy.
In a world where there is nothing for nothing, I really wonder why Germany would accept contributing to the EU the large sums of money Germans often complain about if they didn't get anything bigger and greater in return. I strongly suspect that the "return on investment" isn't humanistic satisfaction, or the defense western/democratic values, but rather something much materialistic. Germans know better and there's nothing wrong with that, but let's just cut the hypocrisy.
Is it that they are getting cheap labor and people to pay into the taxes? This is from 2009:Germany's ageing population heading for massive decline - The Local But the population of working age people in is expected to drop by as much as 34 percent by 2060, forcing greater immigration in order to prop up the country's generous welfare system for elderly Germans
In a world where there is nothing for nothing, I really wonder why Germany would accept contributing to the EU the large sums of money Germans often complain about if they didn't get anything bigger and greater in return. I strongly suspect that the "return on investment" isn't humanistic satisfaction, or the defense western/democratic values, but rather something much materialistic. Germans know better and there's nothing wrong with that, but let's just cut the hypocrisy.
Pretty much. Unless Merkel is Dalai Lama just likes giving money to other European countries I see no reason to believe it's just "because we're Christians" argument.
In a world where there is nothing for nothing, I really wonder why Germany would accept contributing to the EU the large sums of money Germans often complain about if they didn't get anything bigger and greater in return. I strongly suspect that the "return on investment" isn't humanistic satisfaction, or the defense western/democratic values, but rather something much materialistic. Germans know better and there's nothing wrong with that, but let's just cut the hypocrisy.
Germany is of course profiting from the EU. Just like every other country in the EU. But they are certainly not in for it to control other countries as some people here seem to suggest.
Germany is of course profiting from the EU. Just like every other country in the EU. But they are certainly not in for it to control other countries as some people here seem to suggest.
Do you really think Germany and say Greece benefit from the EU the same way? If EU countries trade mainly between them how can they all achieve a positive trade balance? It just impossible
I don't think Germany controls everything in others countries. Germany doesn't care if x country votes to allow gay marriage or similar types of questions but it definitely imposes directives through the EU chain of command to ensure its best interest is maintained. Remember how Greece had to negotiate with Germany like an work-union tried to bargain with the company's board of directors. Varoufakis, though democratically elected was mysteriously kicked out. Just look at Poland who elected a euro-skeptic government and is already getting heat for it.
I never said that they profit from the EU the same way. They are so many factors - both on the side of the EU and domestic factors - that determine how much country X is profiting from it. But yes, I think all of the countries can achieve a positive trade balance. Pretty much proven since David Ricardo and further developed through the ages.
And yes, I remember the (ongoing) Greek debt crisis and Varoufakis. It was not only Germany who was involved in the bargaining. No, also the whole EU - consisting of its various member states - and the IMF. Why did they have to bargain? Because previous democratically elected Greek governments were unsustainably lending money from many countries. Germany happened to be one of the main lenders.
Now, since they couldn't repay on their own they could either default or borrow more money to pay off debts. Both are viable options. Defaulting would have had terrible consequences, but it would have put an end to the discussions and would have enabled a thorough revamp of their system. Considering the rather obscure policies that Syriza proposed, I doubt the revamp would have been very sustainable either.
Now, they decided not to default. Which means they had to borrow more money from foreign countries. Now, foreign governments aren't stupid and knew that Greece wouldn't be able to repay new debt without reforms.
Varoufakis and the lenders were on the same boat with that, but their ideas on how to restructure Greece were diverging greatly. In the end, Varioufakis lost and Syriza had to break some promises they made before the elections. It's not a mystery why he was kicked out. He faced opposition from his own party. And they couldn't get any new money. Even though he is a professor teaching game-theory, he was a terrible poker player.
Now, as to Poland: they don't really get that much **** just because they are euro-sceptic. They are getting **** for domestic policies. And rightly so, in my opinion. What we see is a party trying to maintain its influence eternally. The rule of law? Rechtsstaat? Nah...
'My friend recently told me that we live on a thing called a planet, which is in a kind of thing called space, and light comes from this ball called the sun. Here's how I think the sun works.'
I mean, jeez. Even by local standards, the level of knowledge displayed by the op is miserable.
If welfare shopping would be possible, Romanians would probably not dig in my dumpster like they do now.
How could that be?
Hhere we also have a large number of Romanian scavengers and beggars.
What is the total number of Romanian scavengers and beggars?
How can they cover a continent?
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