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From what I understand, Muslims in Europe are very poor and do not assimilate quite well. In contrast, Muslims in America are among the most successful people in the country. I think on average they are more wealthy than the average white person. Why is this?
First off the overwhelming majority of Muslims is well integrated. Regarding the problems you see on Fox News, Arabs have been moving massively to Europe rather than the US because Muslim countries are geographically far from the US and much closer to Europe. Because unless you have a higher education degree it is nearly impossible to immigrate legally to the US. Because some Muslim countries were colonies/protectorates in the past creating a link. Immigrants usually go where they will find fellow countrymen. Thus when a community is small it goes unnoticed and assimilates better. When it's large not so much. It's a similar situation as to asking why are Latinos more successful in Europe than in the US? For the exact same aforementioned reasons.
From what I understand, Muslims in Europe are very poor and do not assimilate quite well. In contrast, Muslims in America are among the most successful people in the country. I think on average they are more wealthy than the average white person. Why is this?
since when are Muslims the most successful people in the US? have you ever been to Dearborne? do these wealthy Muslims include all the Somali cab drivers in Minneapolis and NYC?
since when are Muslims the most successful people in the US? have you ever been to Dearborne? do these wealthy Muslims include all the Somali cab drivers in Minneapolis and NYC?
Yes, and those are mostly refugees. But per capita there aren't nearly as many of those kinds in the US as there are in Europe, not even close. You also have a very large number of Muslim doctors, tech workers, engineers, etc. in the US that you don't see as much per capita in Europe.
From what I understand, Muslims in Europe are very poor and do not assimilate quite well. In contrast, Muslims in America are among the most successful people in the country. I think on average they are more wealthy than the average white person. Why is this?
Muslims are not a race!
They can be any skin color or race!
On topic: the U.S. Is farther away and more expensive for the less educated and radical Muslim to immigrate compared to Europe.
From what I understand, Muslims in Europe are very poor and do not assimilate quite well. In contrast, Muslims in America are among the most successful people in the country. I think on average they are more wealthy than the average white person. Why is this?
From what I saw of Muslims in the US - they mostly move to the big cities, and big cities in America are more or less big commercial zones, divided by districts/neighborhoods, with a huge sprawl and little interaction between the people of different neighborhood. So everyone is "integrated" commercially, taking the available niches in the operating machine of local economy, and at the same time no one is cohesively integrated with each other ( as far as different "neighborhoods" go.)
Here is the example of Somalian muslims, living somewhere in such big city as Minneapolis;
This kind of arrangement is simply unavailable in European cities, that are much smaller for the most part and more cohesive culturally than American big cities.
But when you come to smaller American cities, muslims (if settled in big numbers) would stick as sore thumb as well. Unless, of course, we are talking about highly educated professionals, who live here and there NOT within their own community, but in the mix with other educated professionals, in affluent neighborhoods. But such situation with well-paid professionals is not much different from Europe.
From what I understand, Muslims in Europe are very poor and do not assimilate quite well. In contrast, Muslims in America are among the most successful people in the country. I think on average they are more wealthy than the average white person. Why is this?
First you must understand like Judaism, being Muslim is a religion not a race. There are Muslims from the former Ottoman-Turkish and Hapsburg empires right along to those from Africa and Middle-East.
That being said the idea of assimilation for some Muslims wholly into various European countries just cannot happen.
Post WWII if not prior countries like France, Germany etc.... are places where one is "French" or "German" first, then whatever religion; that is while there is freedom of religion the State comes first. Freedom of religion as enshrined in the USC and practiced in the USA is not the universal form found in Europe. In some places like France religious freedom can best be summed up by "you can practice whatever faith you wish, but keep it at home and or don't push your views onto others".
Going back to the French Revolution and various other wars with the Roman Catholic church you can understand where all this comes from. However to certain Muslims their religion simply *is* intertwined with their daily life, period. Their views on women, homosexuality, morality, etc... are non-starters and if that is what it means to "assimilate" they aren't having any of it.
Just as with Jews there are and have been wealthy, middle class or whatever Muslims in European countries. Not huge numbers but then again their populations are small to begin.
As for your comment about Muslims in the USA being some of the most successful you don't get out much do you? In NYC scores if not hundreds of taxi drivers, street fruit stand sellers, peddlers, street vendors, etc... all are Muslims.
Yes, and those are mostly refugees. But per capita there aren't nearly as many of those kinds in the US as there are in Europe, not even close. You also have a very large number of Muslim doctors, tech workers, engineers, etc. in the US that you don't see as much per capita in Europe.
probably because welfare in the US is not as generous as is Europe. They need to get off their lazy butts and work if they want to make ends meet.
First you must understand like Judaism, being Muslim is a religion not a race. There are Muslims from the former Ottoman-Turkish and Hapsburg empires right along to those from Africa and Middle-East.
That being said the idea of assimilation for some Muslims wholly into various European countries just cannot happen.
Post WWII if not prior countries like France, Germany etc.... are places where one is "French" or "German" first, then whatever religion; that is while there is freedom of religion the State comes first. Freedom of religion as enshrined in the USC and practiced in the USA is not the universal form found in Europe. In some places like France religious freedom can best be summed up by "you can practice whatever faith you wish, but keep it at home and or don't push your views onto others".
Going back to the French Revolution and various other wars with the Roman Catholic church you can understand where all this comes from. However to certain Muslims their religion simply *is* intertwined with their daily life, period. Their views on women, homosexuality, morality, etc... are non-starters and if that is what it means to "assimilate" they aren't having any of it.
Just as with Jews there are and have been wealthy, middle class or whatever Muslims in European countries. Not huge numbers but then again their populations are small to begin.
As for your comment about Muslims in the USA being some of the most successful you don't get out much do you? In NYC scores if not hundreds of taxi drivers, street fruit stand sellers, peddlers, street vendors, etc... all are Muslims.
Judaism unlike Islam and Christianity is matrilinear transmitted. Being Jewish has nothing to do with believing and being religious. That is a concept projected from Christianity and its universal perspective.
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do these wealthy Muslims include all the Somali cab drivers in Minneapolis and NYC?
