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Old 04-28-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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I don't know anybody either who likes pink or green stuff on cakes. Just so unnatural.


Germans love their bakeries - but all items are fresh, don't last a week, no preservatives and even the sweet stuff is not that sweet. It is in no comparison to American baking goods.
I wouldn't mind coloring itself, since I used to have plenty of "frosting" in my childhood, just of much better quality than American quality of sweets sorry to say)))
However the TASTE(((((
As I've mentioned above, "quantity vs quality."
Intravenous shot of sugar.

P.S. So whenever I have a chance, I hunt for German sweets, although the supply is dwindling here where I live, unfortunately)))
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Old 04-28-2016, 12:21 PM
 
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It's lovely!!
I meant to ask you already for long time - how old are you?
Do you want me to supply a so-called "German cake" for your next birthday party with your little friends? I promise it's going to be decorated with all the rainbow colors; these cakes are awesome for food fight - that's about all they are good for)))
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Old 04-28-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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Our sweets are so much better and tasty.

Get over it Euro people
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Old 04-28-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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At the same time you absolutely don't have any problems with arson attacks against refugee shelters or terrorist attacks of extreme right-wingers.
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Old 04-28-2016, 01:40 PM
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Location: On the Border
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There are plenty of bakeries that produce quality product that would be loved anywhere in the world (and not surprisingly those bakers come from all over the world).

What europeans seem to not understand about America is how big it is and how the market caters to all desires and all levels of income. Most of us have a decent level of income and don't buy supermarket cakes with frosting 3 centimeters thick unless it's for little kids who like that stuff.

I live in a small desert city in the southwest that not many europeans would ever come to, but I have a belgian bakery/cafe down the street that serves pastries every bit as good as I got in Frankfurt and Wiesbaden. And those were damn good.

There is also a Tunisian shop that sells all sorts of middle eastern pastries that are wonderful too. When you go to a big city in America the choices are innumerable and include everything any european could ever get and stuff from Asia/Africa the rest of the Americas to boot.
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Old 04-28-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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What europeans seem to not understand about America is how big it is and how the market caters to all desires and all levels of income. Most of us have a decent level of income and don't buy supermarket cakes with frosting 3 centimeters thick unless it's for little kids who like that stuff.
I didn't even want to bother with a response, but yeah.

If your image of "typical American sweets" is a Costco frosting cake, then you haven't been to the U.S. in 40-50 years. Forget places like NYC and LA, even small town America has upscale sweets available, and Costco cakes are for 5-year-older birthday parties, not adults.

Just stroll into any Whole Foods (there are only about 500 Whole Foods in the U.S.) or any of its regional equivalents and the sweets selection rivals what you would find in a high-end konditerei in a major German or Austrian city. And obviously there are nicer independent bakeries.

My mother lives in Michigan, in a very "average" area, and there is a French bakery, a massive Italian supermarket, an Austrian cake-maker, a Polish market, and other independent sweets purveyors, as well as many upscale grocers that offer high-end sweets.

This bakery is very close to her home. Not exactly "Costco cake".

https://www.townsendhotel.com/view/townsend-bakery
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Old 04-28-2016, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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I didn't even want to bother with a response, but yeah.

If your image of "typical American sweets" is a Costco frosting cake, then you haven't been to the U.S. in 40-50 years. Forget places like NYC and LA, even small town America has upscale sweets available, and Costco cakes are for 5-year-older birthday parties, not adults.

Just stroll into any Whole Foods (there are only about 500 Whole Foods in the U.S.) or any of its regional equivalents and the sweets selection rivals what you would find in a high-end konditerei in a major German or Austrian city. And obviously there are nicer independent bakeries.

My mother lives in Michigan, in a very "average" area, and there is a French bakery, a massive Italian supermarket, an Austrian cake-maker, a Polish market, and other independent sweets purveyors, as well as many upscale grocers that offer high-end sweets.

This bakery is very close to her home. Not exactly "Costco cake".

https://www.townsendhotel.com/view/townsend-bakery
Unless they are born in France, Italy, Austria or Poland i doubt they are anything similar to how a bakery, a supermarket or a cake maker in these countries would be. In fact, in the meantime local cuisines would have evolved with new trends whereas these places would be influenced by American ones and probably try to adapt to their standards. That said, that's still an impressive amount of variety
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Old 04-28-2016, 05:11 PM
 
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There are plenty of bakeries that produce quality product that would be loved anywhere in the world (and not surprisingly those bakers come from all over the world).

What europeans seem to not understand about America is how big it is and how the market caters to all desires and all levels of income. Most of us have a decent level of income and don't buy supermarket cakes with frosting 3 centimeters thick unless it's for little kids who like that stuff.

I live in a small desert city in the southwest that not many europeans would ever come to, but I have a belgian bakery/cafe down the street that serves pastries every bit as gotod as I got in Frankfurt and Wiesbaden. And those were damn good.

There is also a Tunisian shop that sells all sorts of middle eastern pastries that are wonderful too. When you go to a big city in America the choices are innumerable and include everything any european could ever get and stuff from Asia/Africa the rest of the Americas to boot.
Yeah-yeah-yeah, I've heard this song before, about all the "variety" and "great stuff" that you can find "somewhere in upscale" whatever.
Why Germans don't need to go to "upscale whatever," but they buy their decent sweets on any corner, in any konditerai I wonder?
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Old 04-28-2016, 05:14 PM
 
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Unless they are born in France, Italy, Austria or Poland i doubt they are anything similar to how a bakery, a supermarket or a cake maker in these countries would be. In fact, in the meantime local cuisines would have evolved with new trends whereas these places would be influenced by American ones and probably try to adapt to their standards. That said, that's still an impressive amount of variety
Thank you. And even then, with time I suspect they start adjusting their goods to American standards of "quantity vs quality." Efficiency, you know.
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Old 04-28-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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About a dozen of the small family owned and operated bakeries in my area are no more... they ranged from very small to those with large followings... and all with European roots.

Guess it is a sign of the times...

Contrast to one that I patronize in Salzburg has been there over 200 years... and similar for the one I visit in Munich... Salzburg's oldest Bakery dates from the 12th century!

http://www.salzburg.info/en/shopping...kerei_st_peter

Hard to find anything half that old in SF Bay Area in business and California became a State in 1850... so 166 years and counting....

Their were huge concentrations of German speaking families with Taverns and Vereins and even a very large Altenheim that marked huge declines after both World Wars...

Even the Altenheim closed...

https://localwiki.org/oakland/The_Altenheim
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