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Old 06-24-2016, 08:17 AM
 
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this http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/brexit03.pdf
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:18 AM
 
Location: God's Gift to Mankind for flying anything
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Yes, before the UE there as many codes for everything as countries, which was a nightmare for the import/ export companies - of goods and services alike.
With the UE codes unified, made them more complex as they had to take into account more variables but at least there was one place to go and one change to make not 20.
Interesting !
You should see some of the building codes (simple ones for home builders or something like that) here in the USA.
They can vary from town to town ...

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Old 06-24-2016, 08:23 AM
 
Location: SA
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This contribution shows how the Europhiles have developed the skill of "drowning themselves in a cup of tea", or better said, make out of technicalities ('"building codes" in this instance) the centerpiece of European politics. Bear in mind that the most remarkable urban structures (be it buildings, houses, castles, churches, industrial estates, etc) were built in Europe since the Middle Ages (and before...see the Coliseum or Pompei) without EU BUILDING CODES! unbelievable isn't it ?
I am not talking about just building codes but all type of codes and regulations, having to deal with separate rules per country when you want to trade at European level was a nightmare, and might exclude UK from trading with some players or at least make them more expensive.
Btw the houses, castles and churches which have survived the passage of time were build with the same architectural guidelines, in a way unified, the ones which didn't survive were the ones built poorly due to money or skills restrictions. You cannot compare both.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Not really, most of our investment is increasingly coming from places such as China, India, Middle East and we will always have a close relationship with the Anglosphere.

As for being irrelevant, the EU is undemocratic, corrupt and largely irrelevant itself, let them go on their merry way with Mass Immigration, plus they can now replace Britain's membership with Turkey's membership.
Several countries are opposed with Turkey's membership. That would have been a possibility ten years ago but it isn't at the moment, no one's willing for that to happen, not even Germany.

Mass immigration will keep interesting even Britain just like it has for decades, the conservatives have done little in decades of ruling and will do little now. By the way, Farage has shifted the blame to workers coming from the member countries of the EU but they are ones that are creating jobs, boosting the British economy and so on................and aside from that, the most immigration that's creating the most is the one that's coming from outside of Europe
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:34 AM
 
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It seems like some folks want a "United States of Europe". And how has the EU kept wars from breaking out? It didn't stop the civil war in the former Yugoslavia from breaking out?
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:34 AM
 
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Interesting !
You should see some of the building codes (simple ones for home builders or something like that) here in the USA.
They can vary from town to town ...
I know but imagine that when you bill to a company in other states, you have to make sure tax comply local jurisdictions - which also the case in UE - but also different customs regulations ... Freaking nightmare!
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:36 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Several countries are opposed with Turkey's membership. That would have been a possibility ten years ago but it isn't at the moment, no one's willing for that to happen, not even Germany.

Mass immigration will keep interesting even Britain just like it has for decades, the conservatives have done little in decades of ruling and will do little now. By the way, Farage has shifted the blame to workers coming from the member countries of the EU but they are ones that are creating jobs, boosting the British economy and so on................and aside from that, the most immigration that's creating the most is the one that's coming from outside of Europe
Britain is most lilely to bring in a points based system to let in only those workers it sees as skilled.

EU referendum: Boris and Gove pledge tough new immigration system after Brexit

As for Turkey they are still negotiating, and I have little doubt if the EU is still in existence they will eventually join, as the EU has been expanding it's borders for decades now.

The Schengen Agreement was a disaster Britain avoided, Monetary Union was also a disaster which Britain has avoided, Political Unity is another disaster, indeed the whole corrupt EU is a disaster constituting to nearly a trillion euros of corruption every year.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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It seems like some folks want a "United States of Europe". And how has the EU kept wars from breaking out? It didn't stop the civil war in the former Yugoslavia from breaking out?
Case in point: these countries weren't part of the European Union and the growing hatred between them which was caused by nationalism put an end to four decades of successful economical development that happened due to their neutral position towards both blocs

I want a Europe that puts structures in place to ease countries (it's up to them to choose) to protect workers rights, to have a common minumum wage compared to the average income of a country, to subsidy the weaker economies and the weaker economical sectors but more than all has the same tax rate regarding enterprises for all countries and that's able to take his own common decisions when it comes to foreign policy and to immigration policy. I want a Europe where electors decide and where decisionmaking is exclusively up to the European Parliament and not up to the Commission

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Old 06-24-2016, 08:38 AM
 
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My reaction to Britain's vote : YUPPIE YEAH YEAH YUPPIE YUPPIE YEAH!!!!!
Your turn for you US friends to free yourself finally from PC oppression and vote TRUMP in November!
hell no
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Britain is most lilely to bring in a points based system to let in only those workers it sees as skilled.

EU referendum: Boris and Gove pledge tough new immigration system after Brexit

As for Turkey they are still negotiating, and I have little doubt if the EU is still in existence they will eventually join, as the EU has been expanding it's borders for decades now.
The most vocal supporter of Turkey joining the EU just decided to leave the EU. It's not going to happen.
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