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As oil becomes an increasingly less important input into global economic production and its price goes down both relatively and absolutely, the Saudi ruling class needs somewhere to migrate their decades-long accumulation of power and money. They use piracy (most of you are trained to call it terrorism) and bribery, among other tools, to soften up their targets.
Through the Saudis' piracy and bribery, then, western decision-makers have often been convinced to some degree to be on the "wrong" side of several conflicts, such as Bosnia, Libya and Syria (though they were able to successfully reverse course in Egypt, apparently) and Ukraine, while they try to play the Iran (Shiite) card as a counterbalance. Now that's a dangerous game; lucrative for the military-industrial complex in several countries, but still dangerous for everyone.
So where should those combat boots go exactly? With whose feet will the ageing populations of the countries of early industrialization fill those boots? Maybe drones and robots.
Average people are caught up in a whirlwind of epoch-making demographical and political-economic change.
Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by paull805
Nothing to do with diversity, it is extreme views of Sunni Islam that is the problem. If they keep poking the beast then hell is soon gonna rain down on Iraq/Syria. I am not saying it is right but a few more deadly attacks in France and I can see them sending boots in. Take them out on the battlefield.
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Originally Posted by T. Damon
It's not that complex at all. It is all about the percentage and mix of Muslims reaching a perfectly predictable shift from somewhat integrated, but still self segregating earlier populations and then once you get a certain percentage of a community's population then start demanding more and more accommodations for Muslims: more mosques; halal food preparation/related employment; forcing companies to accept Islamic dress codes for employees and schools; sharia courts (Islamic neighborhood centers); madrasa "education" (indoctrination); full public assistance for all moving in all overseas family members of emigrated citizens and, a segment of society moving more and more towards an Islamist way of thinking courtesy of the Saudi's wholesale exportation and funding of strict, rigid, unforgiving Salafi Sunni sect beliefs, rejecting completely Western society (but cleverly utilizing its egalitarian beliefs) commencing with, ultimately, a complete takeover of society.
In a country of such great architecture, technology, culture, art, dance, food, wine and music that Islam would never allow to be much less be able to produce. Rather, they will crush it.
Sadly, nearly all of France's urban areas have long since passed the tipping point. The decline of a magnificent country and society is all too certain. I am feeling full of sadness for the recent events experienced by such a wonderful country and culture, but am not all all surprised.
It seems that France is on its way of becomming like a country in the ME where a bunch of people are killed by terror in relatively short intervalls, and nobody is surprised and cares anymore.
Comparing the IRA to to what is happening now with radical islam is a complete joke! You apparently have absolutely zero knowledge of history. When did the IRA massacre anything near the equivalent of :
-160 people in Paris
-80 people in Nice
-50 people in Orlando
-16 people in San Bernardino
-2,000 people in NYC (9/11)
....and that is just a tiny sample of all the radical islamist terrorist shooting, bombings, etc... around the world the past 15 yrs. The IRA never did anything remotely like this.
As an Englishman I find your post quite nauseating, just because they only killed innocent English people doesn't make them any less of a terrorist, or don't the English count? Also the support they got from some parts of the US meant that there were 'some' Americans also with terrorist blood on their hands.
Yeah, terrorists with a set political objective who almost exclusively targeted officials, and eventually voluntarily gave up their terrorist activities.
I'm not defending the NRA, but the difference between them and a bunch of religious zealots strapping explosives to themselves or hitting the gas in a big truck for a one-way mission of carnage is day and night. Generally speaking, NRA members at least valued their own lives - Jihadists can't even claim that much.
Tell that to the relatives of the people murdered in the Birmingham bombings or the Warrington bombings or the Irishmen and women murdered by the IRA. Tell them that their deaths don't count.
Thank goodness for those guns. Try this in an American city with concealed carry and I can almost guarantee that someone is going to put shots into that truck cab long before 84 people are dead. This doofus drove over a mile through that crowd before he was finally stopped, just rampantly killing. Think about how far that is for NOTHING to impede him.
God bless the Second Amendment. People only see the downside, but it's arguable an attack of this scale, of this type isn't even possible over here because of it.
And yet there has been 911 and more recently mass shootings that has claimed the lives of dozens of innocent Americans, the Second Amendment didn't really help matters there did it! In fact I would argue that it makes things even worse.
Not sure I buy this argument. The U.S. just had a attack on that scale, Orlando. Name one terrorist attack in the U.S. that was ever stopped (or even slowed) by a citizen with a gun? The odds of there even being a citizen with a gun at one of these attacks, and the state of mind and position to stop it, are slim to none. Think if you are in a restaurant, theater, or public place and some guy bursts in suddenly spraying gunfire, are you really going to be in a position to shoot the guy with a gun? You are going to be running for your life. Do you really think someone who happened to be carrying a concealed handgun at the Nice Bastille event could have really tried to shoot the driver of the truck who out of nowhere came plowing though a crowd? I just don't buy the argument that more guns in the hands of citizens would prevent or slow terrorism.
The only thing that could make life more difficult for terrorists is better intelligence and indeed crossborder intelligence in Europe and for border controls to be put back in place. In this case the man was a local French Tunisian who the police knew of but the French Intelligence had not come across before, however only by building secure boders and better intelligence can we at least try to detect and prevent terrorists.
The design of shopping and public meeting areas also needs to change, with more use of CT Blocks and Barriers and even temporary barriers for events. Cities such as London already incorporate CT Blocks and Barriers in to the streetscape.
Not sure I buy this argument. The U.S. just had a attack on that scale, Orlando. Name one terrorist attack in the U.S. that was ever stopped (or even slowed) by a citizen with a gun?
That's a really bad example for a couple of reasons:
1) It was a gay night club. We can assume based on simple statistics that the majority of the occupants were liberal (does anyone really want to dispute this?), and thus far less likely to be carrying.
2) The club has a no firearms policy, which any law-abiding citizen would respect. Moreover, it had a bouncer for protection, giving occupants an increased (if false) sense of security. However, according to news accounts, as the night waned, vigilance at the club grew lax - which is why the shooter chose the moment that he did to spring his attack.
I never said all terrorists were going to be stopped by gun-toting individuals - but when you're talking about a populated, low-security street full of crowds, the chances (in America) that there are multiple people carrying firearms (who know how to use them) rise dramatically. Thus, this particular attack would have far less chance of success in the United States than it would in a nation where firearms are illegal, such as France - the probability that Mr. Terrorist is going to come face-to-face with someone who can put a bullet through that windshield is simply higher here.
When people shut their ears and mind to trying to actually hear the grassroots issues ... this is the by product. Frustration taken out in unproductive and harmful ways. France has a huge Muslim population ... if even 1/4 of the French Muslim population had anti-French sentiment that country would have been swallowed already. It only takes 1 person to commit an act of terror! A small handful of people can't define a larger group. Most of the people that fall in with terrorist groups, gangs, cults and other criminal organizations are usually people that have issues. Just imagine all the havoc cults like the Manson Family could have inspired if they had internet access! People always seem to want a simple answer for why these things happen .... But it is just not that simple.
As for the leave sentiment ... that just as stupid as saying Europeans should have never occupied parts of the rest world. Too bad so sad. Also are these French people committing these acts of terror or non French terrorists??? If these people committing these crimes are born and raised in France, Muslim or not they are French and France needs to really self evaluate why these Muslim youth born and raised in their country are so willing to commit these crimes?
Regardless it is sad this is happening anywhere in the world as no one should have to endure this type of horror.
You blame French integration but all terrorists were not raised in France.
Most of them were living in Belgium, Syria, North Africa and stayed not so much in France even if they had French ID.
Secondly 91% of terrorist attacks are in Middle East and 9% in France and also in the rest of Europe, USA.
So we can't link integration with terrorist attacks.
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