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Old 08-12-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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I haven't been to Europe, but I've read a lot of posts and blogs written by Germans.

It seems that every German absolutely hates the Third Reich. I do understand that the Third Reich was evil, but wasn't there any positive aspect about Germany in that period?
Seriously???!!!!?


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In the U.S South, slavery was definitely the darker side of the Confederate era, but many Southerners still cherish their southern heritage.
Because many Southerners still wish they had that free or nearly-free (like sharecroppers) labor. They haven't adjusted to the new post-Civil War reality, as evidenced in the continued efforts to disenfranchise a certain minority population by various means, requiring Federal monitoring for elections. Germans are clear about how horrific the past was. Southerners--not so much.

You post some of the strangest questions on here, as if you live in some kind of odd bubble.

 
Old 08-12-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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The positive aspects of the slavery in the U.S have been discussed extensively on the Internet, namely, cheap labor and stability.
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"Positive aspects" for whom?! I think it's safe to assume the pool of participants in those internet forums wasn't ... "diverse".

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Old 08-12-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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The mainstream media are controlled by the elite, just think about the biased opinions on NYT, think about how these columnists are paid for. The chances are these columnists and HRC are paid for by the same special interest groups.
Actually, most media outlets are owned and controlled by Republicans. What is HRC, btw? Human Rights Commission? I don't know what to make of it.
 
Old 08-12-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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Hillary Clinton is responsible for the current refugees problem. .
Oh, and Bush Jr. playing cowboy in Iraq and Afghanistan had nothing to do with it? Get real. Save your nonsense for the Politics forum.
 
Old 08-12-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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It's not your fault, there's no reason to feel ashamed.

My theory is that Germans have been brainwashed, like you said, by the education and media.
No they are not "brainwashed," they are simply aware of their past, or that particular historic period I'd rather say, and can't help feeling what they feel.
You, on another hand, and your "gems" is something else as I've already said.

P.S. The reason US colonial past is not a subject for too many retributions is because it was "internal affair" and Africa doesn't have much to say/doesn't have enough of weight in this respect.
WWII on another hand was a big international affair.

P.S. P.S. In the same venue it's interesting to mention that former USSR citizens are still discussing the positive aspects of the Soviet system, even though a lot of propaganda in the West would like to present that system as "pure evil."
 
Old 08-12-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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"Positive aspects" for whom?! I think it's safe to assume the pool of participants in those internet forums weren't ... "diverse".
For the vast majority and human civilization.

Black slaves used to live with their owners at the beautiful plantations. They should not been treated so harshly, for sure. But they were not homeless, they were mostly well fed and they were productive.

Today, a huge proportion of Blacks live in ghettos, suffering from drug addiction problems, malnutrition, unemployment and lack of education. Even worse, a great number of Blacks end up living in prisons where the conditions are far worse than the plantations in the old days.
 
Old 08-12-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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For the vast majority and human civilization.

Black slaves used to live with their owners at the beautiful plantations. They should not been treated so harshly, for sure. But they were not homeless, they were mostly well fed and they were productive.
OK, I'll keep on collecting these gems.
Along with "complimentary training in English" for Indians during colonial times.
 
Old 08-12-2016, 01:12 PM
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[quote=Bayesian;45107498]For the vast majority and human civilization.

Black slaves used to live with their owners at the beautiful plantations. They should not been treated so harshly, for sure. But they were not homeless, they were mostly well fed and they were productive.

Today, a huge proportion of Blacks live in ghettos, suffering from drug addiction problems, malnutrition, unemployment and lack of education. Even worse, a great number of Blacks end up living in prisons where the conditions are far worse than the plantations in the old days.[/quote]



This can't be a serious post. How exactly are the living conditions far worse than the plantations in the old days? Details please(granted the conditions aren't great).
 
Old 08-12-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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For the vast majority and human civilization.

Black slaves used to live with their owners at the beautiful plantations. They should not been treated so harshly, for sure. But they were not homeless, they were mostly well fed and they were productive.

Today, a huge proportion of Blacks live in ghettos, suffering from drug addiction problems, malnutrition, unemployment and lack of education. Even worse, a great number of Blacks end up living in prisons where the conditions are far worse than the plantations in the old days.[/quote]



This can't be a serious post. How exactly are the living conditions far worse than the plantations in the old days? Details please(granted the conditions aren't great).
Are you implying the conditions in prisons are great?
 
Old 08-12-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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For the vast majority and human civilization.

Black slaves used to live with their owners at the beautiful plantations. They should not been treated so harshly, for sure. But they were not homeless, they were mostly well fed and they were productive.

Today, a huge proportion of Blacks live in ghettos, suffering from drug addiction problems, malnutrition, unemployment and lack of education. Even worse, a great number of Blacks end up living in prisons where the conditions are far worse than the plantations in the old days.
Well, guess what? They weren't homeless in Africa, either, where West African civilizations were flourishing. Well-fed??!! Do you have any idea what they had to make do with for food?! No, it's obvious you don't.

Are you suggesting ghetto blacks would be better off as slaves?! You've seriously lost your mind.
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