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Old 08-29-2018, 07:50 PM
 
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In Erasures post #344 at 8:25 you see the ruins of the city on the north side of the Dniepre. Some of those ruins were still left in place for whatever reason. I remember a couple of the smoke stacks/chimneys still standing. That's where the germans and Russians duked it out for a couple of days and the Germans bombed it when the war started.
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Old 08-29-2018, 07:51 PM
 
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You mean Belgorod?

I personally am not well-familiar with the Western/Southern part of Russia. It was always Siberia - Asia\Caucaus -whatever in terms of travelling. And Ukraine)))
Nope. Smolensk.
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Old 08-29-2018, 08:08 PM
 
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Nope. Smolensk.
Oh. Sorry for misunderstanding.
Smolensk looks grand to me.
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Old 08-29-2018, 08:16 PM
 
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Oh. Sorry for misunderstanding.
Smolensk looks grand to me.
Smolensk looks like a western city. I think people wanna be in EU like in Estonia near
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Old 08-29-2018, 08:22 PM
 
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Tell about Ukraine. I beg you
What should I tell you Alec?
It was quite some time already, during Soviet times.
Kherson surprised me, because for the first time I saw people living in private houses WHILE living in a city.
Kiev didn't feel anything different from Moscow, just warmer. ( Now every time I see the poplar trees ( like in Belgorod,) I know that it's a place with deep blue skies and it's much warmer there than in Moscow)))

The only place that stands out in my memory was actually Ternopol
People were very nice, very friendly. I think they spoke Ukrainian among each other, but they talked Russian when talking to me. Other than that, they reminded me of Siberians - there people were very nice too. ( Anywhere actually, except for Moscow.)
It felt like very nice, provincial place to me ( but to us, Moscovites,) EVERYTHING felt provincial I suppose, except for St. Pet.
I actually liked Ukraine very much, now when I think of it; Odessa, Kiev, Kherson, Ternopol...

Just don't remember other places off top.
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Old 08-29-2018, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Europe
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What should I tell you Alec?
It was quite some time already, during Soviet times.
Kherson surprised me, because for the first time I saw people living in private houses WHILE living in a city.
Kiev didn't feel anything different from Moscow, just warmer. ( Now every time I see the poplar trees ( like in Belgorod,) I know that it's a place with deep blue skies and it's much warmer there than in Moscow)))

The only place that stands out in my memory was actually Ternopol
People were very nice, very friendly. I think they spoke Ukrainian among each other, but they talked Russian when talking to me. Other than that, they reminded me of Siberians - there people were very nice too. ( Anywhere actually, except for Moscow.)
It felt like very nice, provincial place to me ( but to us, Moscovites,) EVERYTHING felt provincial I suppose, except for St. Pet.
I actually liked Ukraine very much, now when I think of it; Odessa, Kiev, Kherson, Ternopol...

Just don't remember other places off top.
Ukraine one half STEP in EU. Welcome!
I will waiting for you!
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Old 08-30-2018, 01:36 AM
 
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In one of the parks in Belgorod.



In Belgorod, the heat season ends and the season of street dances for the adult generation opens. In the Park,where there is a stage, begin regular dance evenings, live music. (admission is free)








A small cafe in the same Park. It is a pity that this company, alas, I do not like their products.But I like the design.


Another glass house in the same Park. I think it's a Banquet hall or something.Maybe a restaurant,but do not know exactly, as it is not asked, let it be intrigue )))


The same scene in the Park, which held dance evenings.
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Old 08-30-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Well.. how should I put it Grega.
I like what I see in Belgorod in terms of NEWER districts.
(I couldn't help but admiring the Russian cities once again, how spacious, green and walkable those cities are, and Belgorod is no exception.)

I just would love them to have the OLDER part of town with well- preserved history in it, that's all.
Yeah that would be nice, but perhaps this gives Belgorod a unique opportunity to create a clean modern city center. That being said Smolensk isn't the only city in western Russia with an old city center.

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Old 08-30-2018, 12:26 PM
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What should I tell you Alec?
It was quite some time already, during Soviet times.
Kherson surprised me, because for the first time I saw people living in private houses WHILE living in a city.
Kiev didn't feel anything different from Moscow, just warmer. ( Now every time I see the poplar trees ( like in Belgorod,) I know that it's a place with deep blue skies and it's much warmer there than in Moscow)))
Funny that was the first thing I noticed about Kherson too. Private houses from the train station all the way down to the river (some nice ones too, even then). I believe its because the older areas were not destroyed and rebuilt in the communist fashion. I think, like Belgorod, it enjoys an element of relatively nice climate which helps attract some people to living there. From what I hear from friends in the area its population has increased after Crimea was annexed.
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Old 08-30-2018, 12:44 PM
 
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Funny that was the first thing I noticed about Kherson too. Private houses from the train station all the way down to the river (some nice ones too, even then). I believe its because the older areas were not destroyed and rebuilt in the communist fashion. I think, like Belgorod, it enjoys an element of relatively nice climate which helps attract some people to living there. From what I hear from friends in the area its population has increased after Crimea was annexed.
If you look at the actual numbers it seems to be the opposite case, the population growth is slowing down.

Belgorod
2008: 353,100 | +_ (+_%)
2009: 358,286 | +5,156 (+1.46%)
2010: 356,402 | -1,884 (-0.53%)
2011: 356,400 | -2 (-0.00%)
2012: 366,110 | +9,710 (+2.72%)
2013: 373,528 | +7,418 (+2.03%)
2014: 379,508 | +5,980 (+1.60%)
2015: 384,425 | +4,917 (+1.30%)
2016: 387,090 | +2,665 (+0.69%)
2017: 391,135 | +4,045 (+1.04%)
2018: 391,554 | +419 (+0.11%)
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