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OP, just because you haven't heard of the incidents, doesn't mean they don't happen. There are other ways to bring about mass killings, too; incidents of pilot suicide killing a planeload of passengers has happened a couple of times in Europe in the last decade or so, hasn't it?
OP, just because you haven't heard of the incidents, doesn't mean they don't happen. There are other ways to bring about mass killings, too; incidents of pilot suicide killing a planeload of passengers has happened a couple of times in Europe in the last decade or so, hasn't it?
A couple of times in A DECADE versus numerous times in 1 YEAR in the US.
Don't try to argue that Europe has 1/10 the amount of mass murders that the US has cause it's not true and a lost battle for you cause evidence will easily contradict you
How far back can we go? Europe has been a nation of savages, killing each other because of race, or religion for centuries. If you consider a timeline from when it first began, it was not that long ago. Then when the Europeans fought and killed their friendships in hate, they came to the 'New World' to wash, rinse, and repeat. It is said they were responsible for wiping out up to 90% of South, Central and North America. But if you are only looking at recent events, then yeah, lots of crazy people in the US killing others.
yes, 2 is not much. but it is much relative to the population. mass murders are very very rare events, so to have two such events in a country of 5-6m million within a time frame of 15 years is actually pretty extreme. look at the statistics
Auvinen, Saari, Shkupolli, Pasanen, Kilpiäinen. That's ALL mass-murderers in independent Finland's history in peacetime. So one every 20 years.
Norway, Finland and Switzerland have higher death rates than the US but they have small population so one or two attacks can raise the rates. Western European average looks much lower. Even if the Nice shootings were added to the French total it would still be lower than the US rate.
Yeah, Stalin, Hitler... If you go by those lines you might as well cite every and each American president, with the aggravating that they commited mass murders against citizens of other countries, to make matters worse.
You can't fight reality, mass murder is a big thing in America, not so much in Europe.
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People say it's because there are more 'crazies' in the US along with poor mental health treatment and guns...but I'd say it's simply the lack of obtaining weapons with the great ease that one has in the United States.
Troubled people in England, Ireland, France have much difficulty in doing anything meaningful if they don't have a gun.
Similarly with terrorism, London hasn't had any meaningful terrorist attack after 7/7 compared to France not because Al-Qaeda/ISIS don't hate England as much as they did but simply due to the overwhelming difficulty in getting industrial chemicals, firearms, etc..
Probably same reason why ROI hasn't had anything as well with the exception of IRA.
We have had a number of famouse serial killers in the UK and in terms of the IRA they tended to use bombs rather than guns.
Certain events in the UK have helped shape gun policy.
How far back can we go? Europe has been a nation of savages, killing each other because of race, or religion for centuries. If you consider a timeline from when it first began, it was not that long ago. Then when the Europeans fought and killed their friendships in hate, they came to the 'New World' to wash, rinse, and repeat. It is said they were responsible for wiping out up to 90% of South, Central and North America. But if you are only looking at recent events, then yeah, lots of crazy people in the US killing others.
Your post is utterly mixing apples and oranges. First Europe is not a Nation. There has been cross-national wars, but no different that what people were doing elsewhere. Just remember the human sacrifices perpetrated in the New World, for instance.
Second, if 90% of natives of the Americas has been wiped out, then Mexico and that kind of places wouldn't be largely populated by Natives and mestizos but by Whites, don't you think?
And yes, the US and the AMericas across the board have incomparably more gun-related violence than any country in Europe.
This is thread is amusing. The reason the US has more mass murders and murders is access to guns. Really nothing else to say as any one with a decent IQ knows this.
However I am sure a few idiots who ignore statistics will want to argue the point.
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