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Old 07-09-2017, 07:31 AM
 
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He invaded countries BY FORCE, not nice, end of story.
if your country hadn't invade others BY FORCE, why do you think there are so many English speaking countries today? Because commerce and trade?
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:20 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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if your country hadn't invade others BY FORCE, why do you think there are so many English speaking countries today?Because commerce and trade?
What has that got to do with it???
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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What has that got to do with it???
England invaded most countries on this planet and as result everyone's talking your language on this board, yet you consider one non-english "dictator" as one of humanity's worst moments ? The logic is weird.
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Old 07-10-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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England invaded most countries on this planet and as result everyone's talking your language on this board, yet you consider one non-english "dictator" as one of humanity's worst moments ? The logic is weird.
I never said he was one of humanities 'worst' but he was certainly no angel, he invaded countries by force, ie he was no good, the fact that countless other dictators have done the same thing in the past is irrelevant. I'm still not sure what England has to do with it??
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Old 07-10-2017, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I never said he was one of humanities 'worst' but he was certainly no angel, he invaded countries by force, ie he was no good, the fact that countless other dictators have done the same thing in the past is irrelevant. I'm still not sure what England has to do with it??
Other European countries were invading countries all the time back then and 9/10 times the other country declared war on Napoleon first; his victories spread enlightenment across Europe, he did not 'conquer' the countries he won like a dictator who enslaves his enemies, in fact if anything he liberated them and that is why he faced next to no revolts within his own territories; in fact he ended slavery in tons of overseas regions controlled by these European nations. It was a time of prosperity and the British and Austrians and Russians with all their greed and desperation to keep autocratic rule took him down.
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Old 07-10-2017, 04:21 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Other European countries were invading countries all the time back then and 9/10 times the other country declared war on Napoleon first; his victories spread enlightenment across Europe, he did not 'conquer' the countries he won like a dictator who enslaves his enemies, in fact if anything he liberated them and that is why he faced next to no revolts within his own territories; in fact he ended slavery in tons of overseas regions controlled by these European nations. It was a time of prosperity and the British and Austrians and Russians with all their greed and desperation to keep autocratic rule took him down.
He wanted to invade the UK by force, not nice, he failed, Nelson defeated him. He made his brother emporer of Spain the Spanish didnt want him there, Wellington and his Spanush allies drove him out of Iberia. Nelson and Wellington are national heroes in the UK.
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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He wanted to invade the UK by force, not nice, he failed, Nelson defeated him. He made his brother emporer of Spain the Spanish didnt want him there, Wellington and his Spanush allies drove him out of Iberia. Nelson and Wellington are national heroes in the UK.
That's fine for English patriotism but look at it this way, had Napoleon won and took the U.K. He would have liberated all your colonies and end the slavery and abuse you guys were committing all around the world.
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Old 07-11-2017, 05:11 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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That's fine for English patriotism but look at it this way, had Napoleon won and took the U.K. He would have liberated all your colonies and end the slavery and abuse you guys were committing all around the world.
He tried to invade the country BY FORCE = bad man, end of story. Thank god for Nelson, come see he column sometime.
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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He tried to invade the country BY FORCE = bad man, end of story. Thank god for Nelson, come see he column sometime.
That is cause Britain was doing the same constantly, if you guys had tried to negotiate with him he would come to the table and there would be peace.
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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I never said he was one of humanities 'worst' but he was certainly no angel, he invaded countries by force, ie he was no good, the fact that countless other dictators have done the same thing in the past is irrelevant. I'm still not sure what England has to do with it??
Because England invaded half of the world ?
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