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Old 07-06-2017, 12:34 AM
 
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While the EU leadership are sulking at how happy Poland are about Trump's visit, Bill Gates has been talking to German Newspaper Welt Am Sonntag, warning Europe about an unsustainable positive feedback cycle of migration from North Africa to the continent.

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"On the one hand you want to demonstrate generosity and take in refugees, but the more generous you are, the more word gets around about this — which in turn motivates more people to leave Africa" ... "Germany cannot possibly take in the huge, massive number of people who are wanting to make their way to Europe."

Gates said Europe needed to "make it more difficult for Africans to reach the continent via the current transit routes".


Bill Gates cautions Europe on its open door immigration policy - news.com.au
To put this into context, Italy took in 82,000 migrants in the first half of this year (almost 20% more than the same period last year), with the Italian interior minister recently urging other EU states to take on a greater share of that burden.


Map of rescue operations from the coast of North Africa - Il Sole 24 ORE
Overwhelmed by immigrants, Italy threatens to bar the door to rescue ships - Washington Post

Only to then have Austria blockade its border with Italy.



Austria to send troops and armoured vehicles to border with Italy to block migrants - Telegraph
Italy summons Austrian ambassador over border troops - Xinhua

Some critics of Europe's migration policy are asking why someone in Gates' position would appear in public to flip the narrative:
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"Does this represent a major shift in the way globalists view immigration? And if so, why would this shift occur?"

Are The Globalists Backing Down?: Bill Gates Calls To Stem Refugee Migration Into Europe

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Old 07-06-2017, 02:07 AM
 
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Remember when Italy's Northern League said that Italy should use its navy to stop invaders from crossing the Med? Italy really needs to do that before it becomes a real life Camp of the Saints.
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Old 07-06-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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I agree, it's an unsustainable situation that helps neither continent. The real solution is to treat the problem at source by helping to develop Africa. In fairness, this has always been Bill Gates's mission.
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Old 07-06-2017, 07:54 AM
 
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I agree, it's an unsustainable situation that helps neither continent. The real solution is to treat the problem at source by helping to develop Africa. In fairness, this has always been Bill Gates's mission.
Indeed, Mr. Gates' comments are probably missing some context: he probably also mentioned that an integral part of the "process" is helping African countries to develop internally such that the people there do not feel they have to undertake such a desperate migration.


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Remember when Italy's Northern League ....
... in the 1990s very clearly expressed basically what 'in fairness, what Bill Gates' mission has always been': the key is development in those countries, not massive, desperate migration into European countries.

In the 1990s, the Northern League also very clearly expressed that without a significant change in economic policy, Italy's economy would be overwhelmed by the challenge of globalism.

Their message was not heeded in either case, and we see the results on the ground today.

You see, this is not globalism versus nationalism, this is not right versus left, this is simple common sense.

Common sense.

But apparently not enough of it to go around, especially in comparison to myopic personal greed.

Well, what comes around goes around.

Good Luck!
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:01 AM
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I agree, it's an unsustainable situation that helps neither continent. The real solution is to treat the problem at source by helping to develop Africa. In fairness, this has always been Bill Gates's mission.
True. It's one thing when Syrians/true refugees need to flee just to save their lives, but too often people are coming to take a chance on a more affluent life. Like many Senegalese have been making the trek even though they have decent lives/skills/knowledge to offer Senegal. Granted Senegal has been hit hard by climate change (particularly drought).
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:12 AM
 
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White, rich guy of german heritage turns out to be anti-immigration, sounds like one of the recent american presidents...
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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It's worth pointing out that Bill Gates has previously praised the immigration policies of Germany and Sweden:

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"The billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates has told the BBC that the United States 'should set a better example' by taking in more refugees. Mr Gates said his home country 'had the capacity' to follow the examples of Germany and Sweden, who were 'to be congratulated' for welcoming migrants."
Bill Gates: US 'should take more' refugees - BBC News

So many are claiming that his latest remarks are a U-turn on his previous statements.

Bill Gates in HUGE borders U-turn: EU must make it harder for migrants | World | News | Express.co.uk
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Old 07-06-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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White, rich guy of german heritage turns out to be anti-immigration, sounds like one of the recent american presidents...
Heaven forbid anyone sees that unbridled immigration is not sustainable. My god, how dare they? All white Europeans, Americans, Australians, Canadians and so on should be forced to work for the rest of the world as slaves and give away their home and land to everyone but other whites. That will solve the problem.
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Old 07-07-2017, 11:15 AM
 
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Helping Africa develop so that people stay there is easier said than done. Most of Africa is lagging behind so far, I think the gap is actually growing rather than shrinking, not least thanks to digital divide.

From an African's perspective life there is basically hopeless. There are so many problems, like corruption, looming civil wars, lack of electricity, sanitation, social security, etc. I wouldn't know where to start, frankly.

The Chinese are probably the only ones really investing in Africa, albeit not for altruistic reasons, of course. The EU on the other hand pretends to help, but at the same time EU politics on trade, agriculture, etc. are doing exactly the opposite. They are destroying local markets and driving Africans deeper and deeper into poverty. And the reason is obvious: nobody outside Africa gives a damn about Africans, at best they see it as a potential market for their exports, but they don't even want Africa to catch up big time as it might turn into competition the way China and India have done.

Then there is also that romantic idea in many Westerners that Africa has to be turned into a living museum, you know, huge safari lands with lions, crocodiles and all such beasts, while we have long destroyed most nature in the West. And Europe has been doing fine without wild nature, we have our human landscapes, so why should Africans declare vast parts of their continent natural parks?

Another problem is brain drain. If we really wanted to help Africa, we would not allow any educated Africans to stay outside Africa after they are finished attending colleges around the world. We should send them back, equipped with entrepreneurial skills and access to a huge global fund for business founders.
Instead, US and European companies are stealing the brightest minds from Africa by offering them jobs in the West.

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Old 07-07-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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My ancestors already did their part in helping Africa by abandoning their olive groves in Libya when Italy de-colonized that country and relinquished control to the native inhabitants. And to compound the injury to my family, this was before it was public knowledge that there was oil under their property, making it highly undervalued. So pardon me for not caring about the plight of Africa, as my family has already done more than their altruistic share.
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