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If you want to swim outside in October, you're down to few choices...
I know.
I don't absolutely 'have' to go swimming in the water although it would be nice to be somewhere I could do that even for just 1 or 2 days.
I could potentially do another separate trip that involved swimming in November or December. I also went to Kauai/Oahu last month and spent a ton of time in the water. So it can wait if it comes down to it...
I see your reasons for choosing Dublin, and though it may not compare to London, Paris, Rome, etc. it is a wonderful, vibrant city and can be done pretty quickly. There are enough things to do and see including excellent theater, music in pubs, besides seeing the Book of Kells. And the Irish people supply much of the charm and hospitality that make Dublin so attractive.
Yep....that's why I picked starting there. I feel I could get through the city quickly. It just seems like it has a really cool vibe and I'd like to just spend most of my time hanging out and chatting it up with people and just taking in the city...I am usually busy in cities with so much to see that I am running around and don't get to do that as much as I would like.
swinning in october could be do-able in Spain or in southern Italy, but I am the type of guy who feels hot in 21c water, so I would not know.
I don't 'have' to swim...it would just be nice to be able to do so.
If not it's cool. At this point if I can't get in the water in Portugal (which that appears to be the case) that's ok--I can plan a separate Florida or Caribbean trip in November or December for that purpose.
Still following this thread for city suggestions to add in between Ireland and Portugal.......
Curious as to why you picked Dublin. IMO it's a very nice city but may pale in comparison to the traditional European heavyweights, many of which you've listed already. It's also on the east coast of an island whose natural beauty is featured on the west coast. I say see more of beautiful Ireland and make the 2nd stop either Shannon or Cork.
two or three days in dublin is too long IMO but its not too long to spend in ireland or even the east coast of ireland
Try Istanbul even if it is not totally a European city. I am currently there then I move to Bulgaria and then to Romania. It will be something new you did not see before. It is important to visit places with different customs in Europe.
What about Valletta? Malta is only a 3 hour flight from the UK, is small enough to see lots of the Island rather than just Valletta. Valletta itself is a very small city full of historic buildings & is a UNESCO world heritage sight. Also October is still very warm here & you will be able to swim outside, even in the sea...
...would you personally pick Amsterdam over Berlin? And if so, why?
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