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Old 08-28-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Free in Finland.
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Old 08-29-2017, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Europe
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I think that as in everything it wants a good sense.

- Free tap water....ok if you drink something else
- Free bread....ok one portion
- Free Parmesan....ok two teaspoon on the pasta

The problem is when you drink only free tap water, when you eat 2/3 portions of bread with one salad, when you put a whole bowl of Parmesan on a plate of pasta.

We are not voluntary association!!!
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Old 08-30-2017, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Near Luxembourg
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I think that as in everything it wants a good sense.

- Free tap water....ok if you drink something else
- Free bread....ok one portion
- Free Parmesan....ok two teaspoon on the pasta

The problem is when you drink only free tap water, when you eat 2/3 portions of bread with one salad, when you put a whole bowl of Parmesan on a plate of pasta.

We are not voluntary association!!!
Well if giving these "free stuffs" is gently/partially included in the price of your menu (what people don't see lol) and then consider than 19 out of 20 times people will have a totally normal use of the parmesan and don't drink 4L of water as well as a complete baguette, you gain in attractivity and it is not voluntary association. It's marketing ("hey look at me, free stuffs included! Come see and taste!") and competition with other restaurants no?
I go once in a restaurant that make me pay for tap water and a piece of bread. i'm happy but I go once...Because I find the equivalent somewhere else but with these free stuffs. And then I continue to go to the second restaurant and not the first one. Dommage, attracting customers is great, keeping them even better.
From the little cafe to the great restaurant, you can have normal water for free, pieces of bread. Restaurants aren't what I call fans of charity. If they provide this, at the end of the month it ends up quite well for them
Besides, as for France, restaurants are expensive (compare to Spain for example). I can tell you that the cost of frozen bread they reheat in a oven is quite marginal. For higher range restaurants, the price of the bread & co is hidden in the price of the menu.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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When I visited Barcelona, water was not free; it was bottled.
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:38 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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I don't get the American obsession with ice. Especially if you eat hot food with it. In Italy it's common to get served a bottle of water stored in the fridge in the summer though.
I use ice every day during the summer. I have a bottle that holds more than a liter, I first fill it with ice (which my refrigerator makes automatically) all the way to the top, then pour filtered water (also comes automatically from the refrigerator) until it is full. I repeat this process three, sometimes four times a day. I don't eat hot food with it, at all. I use it to hydrate/quench my thirst throughout the day. It is close to 100 degrees Fahrenheit here this week. It is nearly 8pm here and 89 degrees in my house.

It isn't an obsession, it's a necessity.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Finland
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I think that as in everything it wants a good sense.

- Free tap water....ok if you drink something else
- Free bread....ok one portion
- Free Parmesan....ok two teaspoon on the pasta

The problem is when you drink only free tap water, when you eat 2/3 portions of bread with one salad, when you put a whole bowl of Parmesan on a plate of pasta.

We are not voluntary association!!!
The consumer service must be grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat at your place.
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Old 08-31-2017, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Well if giving these "free stuffs" is gently/partially included in the price of your menu (what people don't see lol) and then consider than 19 out of 20 times people will have a totally normal use of the parmesan and don't drink 4L of water as well as a complete baguette, you gain in attractivity and it is not voluntary association. It's marketing ("hey look at me, free stuffs included! Come see and taste!") and competition with other restaurants no?
I go once in a restaurant that make me pay for tap water and a piece of bread. i'm happy but I go once...Because I find the equivalent somewhere else but with these free stuffs. And then I continue to go to the second restaurant and not the first one. Dommage, attracting customers is great, keeping them even better.
From the little cafe to the great restaurant, you can have normal water for free, pieces of bread. Restaurants aren't what I call fans of charity. If they provide this, at the end of the month it ends up quite well for them
Besides, as for France, restaurants are expensive (compare to Spain for example). I can tell you that the cost of frozen bread they reheat in a oven is quite marginal. For higher range restaurants, the price of the bread & co is hidden in the price of the menu.
I don't believe that a good restaurateur needs of " free stuffs" to attract customers and/or to increase own business.

In my restaurants the products that we use to cook are always of first quality and fresh.
The recipes are made in an original way, they are Italian originals.
Every drink is good and wine is Italian original.
The restaurants are always clean, the waiters are professional and very kind.
Prices are normal.

People come to us for all the reasons described above, I don't think that a "free stuffs" would increase my business.
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Old 08-31-2017, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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I don't believe that a good restaurateur needs of " free stuffs" to attract customers and/or to increase own business.

In my restaurants the products that we use to cook are always of first quality and fresh.
The recipes are made in an original way, they are Italian originals.
Every drink is good and wine is Italian original.
The restaurants are always clean, the waiters are professional and very kind.
Prices are normal.

People come to us for all the reasons described above, I don't think that a "free stuffs" would increase my business.
Sounds good, where is your restaurant?
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Old 08-31-2017, 01:29 AM
 
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I use ice every day during the summer. I have a bottle that holds more than a liter, I first fill it with ice (which my refrigerator makes automatically) all the way to the top, then pour filtered water (also comes automatically from the refrigerator) until it is full. I repeat this process three, sometimes four times a day. I don't eat hot food with it, at all. I use it to hydrate/quench my thirst throughout the day. It is close to 100 degrees Fahrenheit here this week. It is nearly 8pm here and 89 degrees in my house.

It isn't an obsession, it's a necessity.
No, you're pulling out the ol' red herring.

The water is a necessity for you where you are with those temps.

The obsession with ice is another topic entirely.
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Old 08-31-2017, 01:55 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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On our trip to Ireland, this past spring, we found many lunch places had large jugs of water & glasses available, for self service water.
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