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View Poll Results: France would have been better without immigration
Yes. Immigrants brings more problems than they solve 135 61.09%
No. Immigrants save us. 20 9.05%
Same 10 4.52%
Impossible to know. There are to much factors to take in account 56 25.34%
Voters: 221. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-09-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: france
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Having lived in France, including working in some of the largest 'poorer'migrant communities, I would say more a matter of official policy of the most inapt nature, that was bound to create massive upheavals within society, by creating whole communities of 'forgotten' people, badly integrated and in turn feeling limited alliance to the place they live and ghettos created. In some ways France is an example of not how to do it.



The same phenomen appear in all eauropean countries who have welcome arabs and african population.


Italians, spanish poles and some others lived in thoses places. There were never thoses troubles.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:17 AM
 
Location: france
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That's how some population celebrate the victory of the national team in football...
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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The difference between multicultural society and european one is hurting.
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Old 07-20-2018, 04:35 AM
 
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France experienced immigration since the beginning.


Well, you could as well say :
the UK , Italy, Spain, the US, India, China, and quasi all 197 independent states experienced immigration or invasions in one way or another "since the beginning". Many countries, for instance, changed borders all along History, and included thus different ethnicities at different times . So, France, however it might hurt your idealized opinion of the "French exceptionalism", is in no way a special case.
Now to argue that since France (again like 99% of world countries, save maybe Japan and a few remote islands) is made up of different ethnicities , it should allow for a tsunami of new migration, it's a whole other debate.
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:46 AM
 
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I have never met either irl or in the Web, any French who has not even one Italian, Spaniard or German ancestor, I doubt if there is even one living pure French

Now if the question is if it would be better without "ethnics" (Africans, Arabs etc), economically no way, socially possibly. But if they wanted a country without foreigners, they shouldn't have invaded all these countries and steal their national wealth, the way Britain, Belgium and Netherlands also did, to an even higher degree
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Old 07-21-2018, 05:55 PM
 
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Hello,

Considering the past of French nation. And the actual situation of the country.
Do you think France would have been a better contry withot immigrant today?
All
I can say is that Native French overall are/were never the friendliest.

We always joked that Fran e is one of the most beautiful countries but they have to switch the people out.

But with what has happened over the last two decades is ruin the country.
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Old 07-22-2018, 02:41 AM
 
Location: france
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BBC pictures of riots from "frenchs" people after the victory.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11iy...ature=youtu.be
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:44 AM
 
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Colonialism is also a part of Immigration story. France had colonies in different parts of the world. There was a French East India Company in parts of India like Pondicherry. Once it was ceded back to India, lot of its residnets including Indians moved to France.

If you are talking about advantages and disadvantages of immigration, discussion on effects of colonialism on France should also take place. How much Revenue France earned due to its colonies ??
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:01 AM
 
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If you are talking about advantages and disadvantages of immigration, discussion on effects of colonialism on France should also take place. How much Revenue France earned due to its colonies ??



None.
The only colony who brings some benefits were in asia and they were pretty small...
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:05 AM
 
Location: france
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Sunday night, after France’s World Cup win at the Final, a young couple was savagely assaulted in Poitier’s Saint-Eloi district for responding “no, Vive la France !” to a man who just shouted “Vive l’Algérie !” (“Go Algeria”).

Poitiers was not an exception to the wave of violence following France’s win at the World Cup. Around midnight, a 19-year-old man and his girlfriend were walking in Poitiers’s Saint-Eloi district when they heard a driver of a car shout “Vive l’Algérie !”.

The couple answered with “No, Vive la France !” which upon hearing, the driver got out of his car and launched a jab at the young girl who quickly fell to the ground.

Other men came and joined in the beating. Fortunately, the couple is suffering only minor injuries but the young 19-year-old man was mandated a week’s rest by the doctors.

The police are still searching for the perpetrators. The incident came just a few hours after the assault of a young 22-year-old woman in front of Poitier’s train station. Three young men stopped and vandalised her car, before trying to steal her phone when she took photos of the damage.

France was plagued by riots after its World Cup win. Nearly 300 people were arrested with nearly 45 police officers injured. Numerous shops were looted and cars were torched by mostly migrant men.

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/07/fr...rld-cup-final/
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