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Originally Posted by WestPreussen
I do not write on that forum but well , that is a forum about phenotypes , whats wrong with those subjects ? Anyway the fact that Putin has mongoloid influence in him is obvious to those people who are keen on this subject . lets be real . But lets finish this topic , because at the end of the day , it is really not worth arguing . There are better topics to discuss like russian women (not their phenotypes ) for example . Enough with russian men .
Boundaries in global variation are not abrupt and do not fit a strict view of the race concept; the number of races and the cutoffs used to define them are arbitrary. The race concept is at best a crude first-order approximation to the geographically structured phenotypic variation in the human species.
—biological anthropologist John Relethford in 2009
DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity.
—Human Genome Project The geographic pattern of genetic variation within this array is complex, and presents no major discontinuity. Humanity cannot be classified into discrete geographic categories with absolute boundaries. Furthermore, the complexities of human history make it difficult to determine the position of certain groups in classifications. Multiplying subcategories cannot correct the inadequacies of these classifications.
—American Association of Physical Anthropologists
With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species.
—American Anthropological Association
rationalwiki:
Racialism was first developed in the 1700s. It remained virtually unchallenged until the 1930s-1960s, when genetics showed it to be erroneous. Simply put, modern racialism is pseudoscientificbull****.
This means, that looking at a person's face you simply cannot classify him as some kind of "East Brunn - Mongoloid - Preussoroid - ArkaGdyniaoid - Newfoundlanoid" "phenotype".
Boundaries in global variation are not abrupt and do not fit a strict view of the race concept; the number of races and the cutoffs used to define them are arbitrary. The race concept is at best a crude first-order approximation to the geographically structured phenotypic variation in the human species.
—biological anthropologist John Relethford in 2009
DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity.
—Human Genome Project The geographic pattern of genetic variation within this array is complex, and presents no major discontinuity. Humanity cannot be classified into discrete geographic categories with absolute boundaries. Furthermore, the complexities of human history make it difficult to determine the position of certain groups in classifications. Multiplying subcategories cannot correct the inadequacies of these classifications.
—American Association of Physical Anthropologists
With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species.
—American Anthropological Association
rationalwiki:
Racialism was first developed in the 1700s. It remained virtually unchallenged until the 1930s-1960s, when genetics showed it to be erroneous. Simply put, modern racialism is pseudoscientificbull****.
This means, that looking at a person's face you simply cannot classify him as some kind of "East Brunn - Mongoloid - Preussoroid - ArkaGdyniaoid - Newfoundlanoid" "phenotype".
I was talking about the fact that tribe did mix from the beginning . That is why very rarely you can put someone only as one phenotype without influence of others . There are always mixes . Especially within big countries . But to think there are no races and claiming that everybody is the same is basically another leftist bull**** . There are clearly huge differences in physical appearances beetwen people from Africa , Europe , Asia . Human specie is no different to other mammals in that category . But lets just finnish with this topic . It really does not matter . I am tired of it .
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I was talking about the fact that tribe did mix from the beginning . That is why very rarely you can put someone only as one phenotype without influence of others . There are always mixes . Especially within big countries . But to think there are no races and claiming that everybody is the same is basically another leftist bull**** . There are clearly huge differences in physical appearances beetwen people from Africa , Europe , Asia . Human specie is no different to other mammals in that category . But lets just finnish with this topic . It really does not matter . I am tired of it .
It is pretty much established that there is only one race - the Human race. Of course we have different genetic mutations who affect our physical appearance, but the differences aren't big or consistent enough to warrant a classification into different distinct races.
All this gibberish about looking at a person's face and say he/she is some kind of "East Baltid - Nordic" mix is impossible, as humans aren't wheat or dogs, who have gone trough tens of thousands of years of careful selective breeding.
It is pretty much established that there is only one race - the Human race. Of course we have different genetic mutations who affect our physical appearance, but the differences aren't big or consistent enough to warrant a classification into different distinct races.
All this gibberish about looking at a person's face and say he/she is some kind of "East Baltid - Nordic" mix is impossible, as humans aren't wheat or dogs, who have gone trough tens of thousands of years of careful selective breeding.
This is controversial topic , and after XX century many antropologists in western countries shifted more towards the approach that there is only one race but that is effect of numerous genocides and systems like apartheid , so that was no purely scientific approach .
In 1985 there was survey among american antropologists , and 41 percent (minority) of them said that there are no biological races of Homo Sapiens . 59 percent claimed that , there are biological races of Homo Sapiens .
In 1999 , barely 14 years later 69 percent of american physical antropologists claimed that there are no biological races .
In Poland ( country with much less political corectness ) in 2001 year only 25 percent of physical antropologists claimed that there are no biological races . 75 percent of polish physical antropologists
claimed that there are biological races among Homo Sapiens .
Lets not kid ourselves had it not been for the terrible genocidal , and socially unjust XX century there would be no doubts among physical antropologists that there are biological races of Homo Sapiens . Science like everything else is just a political tool .
This discussion leads to nowhere and is really pointless and off topic . I really would like to get back to the thread's topic .
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No its because asiatic features blended with slavic lean towards a feminine appearance. East Ukraine to SW Russia is where the best looking are to me (I've been all over from the Black Sea to the Baltic). Rostov probably the #1.
Bringing it back to the subject, I'd find more beautiful ladies in Rostov than Stockholm, but barely.
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It has happened as I had suspected: many have mixed up the europeanness and westernerss. Russia is not western as it is eastern (eastern European).
Perhaps I was too optimistic/naive then I created the poll with two options only (Right now is possible that one could make a stuoid conclusion that Russia is not European- this is as wrong as possible.) Both countries, Russia and Sweden are European. Maybe the moderators could delete the poll?
But okay, I noticed something has been done already before in this forum: and again had the voters had quite a false idea of the issue Question for Europeans: Is Russia based on its culture and involvement in European politics, considered a European?
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That's... an interesting take on things)))
Why interesting? I was just refering to Malmö as one of the hub of the issues and problems related to immigration - violence, crime commited by immigrants of non-European origin.
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Originally Posted by erasure
Have to add an important detail here ;
Since I am not familiar with Kostroma and Yaroslavl's history, I'll just take Moscow as an example.
Truth to be told, ORIGINALLY Moscow was no different from Berlin or Paris I'd think, when it comes to the size of its streets.
The major changes, all this grandiosity and increase in size, came only with Stalin's era of the 30ies. ( His ideas were to compete with American cities, and thus to build a capital worthy of the USSR.)
And here they show part of Stalin's reconstruction, where the buildings ( that were marked for preservation) were literally MOVED, in order to widen the streets in the center of the city, to comply with Stalin's vision of the future city.
P.S. Since the rest of old Russian cities were greatly destroyed during the WWII, I would guess they lost their original proportions as well, and were rebuilt already in the 50ies, with Moscow's blueprint in mind.
The newer huge cities in the Eastern part of the country were already following the same trend. However their layout remained European.
I refered to Stalin's empire style by choise as i wanted to show that even Stalin's style was very european. Not talking about that what was before Stalin. Stalin's style was not like a mushroom what came forth out of nothing, quite the contrary it had it's examples. Examples in the very same Russia.
It has happened as I had suspected: many have mixed up the europeanness and westernerss. Russia is not western as it is eastern (eastern European),
Perhaps I was too optimistic/naive then I created the poll with two options only (Right now one could make a conclusion that Russia is not European- this is as wrong as possible.) Both countries, Russia and Sweden are European.
But okay, I noticed something has been done already before in this forum: and again had the voters had quite a false idea of the issue Question for Europeans: Is Russia based on its culture and involvement in European politics, considered a European?
Why interesting? I was just refering to Malmö as one of the hub of the issues and problems related to immigration - violence, crime commited by immigrants of non-European origin.
I refered to Stalin's empire style by choise as i wanted to show that even Stalin's style was very european. Not talking about that what was before Stalin. Stalin's style was not like a mushroom what coame forth out of nothing, quite the contrary it had it's examples.
The poll askes which country is more European. And I think the people got it right that Sweden is more European than Russia as it doesn't have the influence of the Golden Horde.
As for Putin's mongoloidness- as far as I know for classifications are used the pictures of young adult people- I mean people in the age of 20-30 mostly. Current Putin is 65+, that is and eldery man+ botox probaly too.
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Originally Posted by Ariete
All this gibberish about looking at a person's face and say he/she is some kind of "East Baltid - Nordic" mix is impossible, as humans aren't wheat or dogs, who have gone trough tens of thousands of years of careful selective breeding.
With this I can agree, all those classifications of someone being Baltid, Nordid, Celtid, Silvid or whatever are pretty pointless. It is not only because classifications do not have any practical outcome but mostly because of they are not able to describe person's appearance conclusively and comprehensively - the thing is that persons who belong to the very same "type" however look different in different countries. I mean "east-baltids" in Sweden look different than the "east-baltids" in Russia! Or at least for me they do look. Putin can not pass as ethnic Swede. It is like a painter paints a picture.
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) Both countries, Russia and Sweden are European. Maybe the moderators could delete the poll? 
