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Old 01-06-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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I wonder why Germanic and Slavic languages completely branched away from Latin or why researchers said that. Because the European languages use the same or similar roman alphabets and do have their similarities to some of the Romance languages, particularly to Spanish and Italian and even French.

Wouldn't it be fair to say the Germanic and Slavic languages also descended from Latin? Unless their language mainly evolved from another language group and just borrowed some of the Latin words.
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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They didn't branch away from Latin. There's a lot of Latin in Russian. They just use a different alphabet, is all. Because the Orthodox Church reached out to the South and East Slavic nations, and gave them an alphabet. German uses the Latin alphabet. Alphabet is just a language's window-dressing, OP. Don't confuse that with the linguistic aspects: vocabulary, grammar, historical evolution, etc.
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Old 01-06-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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Wouldn't it be fair to say the Germanic and Slavic languages also descended from Latin? Unless their language mainly evolved from another language group and just borrowed some of the Latin words.
No.

Germanic languages evolved from pre-Germanic Indo-European languages and Slavic languages from Proto-Balto-Slavic languages. These base proto-languages started to become proto-Germanic and proto-Slavic around the time Rome was founded. And the founders (if Romulus and Remus could speak) spoke proto-Italic, which then eventually evolved to Latin.

The only thing common with Germanic, Slavic and Romance languages are that they are different branches from a common ancestor, the Proto-Indo-European language, which arrived in Europe somewhere around 2500-2000 BC.

The Latin Alphabet is just "cultural appropriation". Proto-Germanic was written in this alphabet, which were much later used for propaganda purposes by a certain Reich:


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Old 01-06-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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No.

Germanic languages evolved from pre-Germanic Indo-European languages and Slavic languages from Proto-Balto-Slavic languages. These base proto-languages started to become proto-Germanic and proto-Slavic around the time Rome was founded. And the founders (if Romulus and Remus could speak) spoke proto-Italic, which then eventually evolved to Latin.

The only thing common with Germanic, Slavic and Romance languages are that they are different branches from a common ancestor, the Proto-Indo-European language, which arrived in Europe somewhere around 2500-2000 BC.

The Latin Alphabet is just "cultural appropriation". Proto-Germanic was written in this alphabet, which were much later used for propaganda purposes by a certain Reich:
What idiots, same sign for c, k and q, and v and w!
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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No.

Germanic languages evolved from pre-Germanic Indo-European languages and Slavic languages from Proto-Balto-Slavic languages. These base proto-languages started to become proto-Germanic and proto-Slavic around the time Rome was founded. And the founders (if Romulus and Remus could speak) spoke proto-Italic, which then eventually evolved to Latin.

The only thing common with Germanic, Slavic and Romance languages are that they are different branches from a common ancestor, the Proto-Indo-European language, which arrived in Europe somewhere around 2500-2000 BC.

The Latin Alphabet is just "cultural appropriation". Proto-Germanic was written in this alphabet, which were much later used for propaganda purposes by a certain Reich:
Old Russian alphabet - enjoy)))

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Old 01-06-2018, 02:39 PM
 
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What idiots, same sign for c, k and q, and v and w!
I think c, k q and v, w were just the same sound and not different letters at all the time. For example Italian still doesn't have the letter k.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:12 PM
 
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Well Latin isn't the mother of all languages you know.

All European languages except Hungarian and Finnish come from something called 'old Indo-European':

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-E...anches_map.svg
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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Well Latin isn't the mother of all languages you know.

All European languages except Hungarian and Finnish come from something called 'old Indo-European':

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-E...anches_map.svg
And according to the popular theory the proto-Indo-European languages were spoken on a quite small geographic area:

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Old 01-06-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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By the way, Russian language is quite archaic. it is much closer to the Indo-European than to the Lithic languages.
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:37 PM
 
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By the way, Russian language is quite archaic. it is much closer to the Indo-European than to the Lithic languages.
Modern Russian isn't that old. It's a Medieval language just like many other European languages.
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