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Old 05-29-2018, 09:20 AM
 
Location: England
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Yes Spain, England, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, Norway still have kings and queens.

But so does even Italy and to a lesser part Greece.

Well as nobilities as far as anything close to a King and Queen.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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The nobility/aristocratic families even in the countries that don't have monarchies, are still there. A lot or most of them have assets or just the memorabilia, others kept their ventures and have seen their riches increase, while others might have lost their fortunes ... the ones that manage their estate right maybe they still have some sort of estates like Castles, palaces, and land... others that either by stupidity or misfortune might have gotten their assets seized - all depends in the country we are talking about.

But there is no recognition per se for being from a noble famility other than maybe people knowing they you come from good families... it might help with networking or something but that's it. There is no real influence per se, unless you have the big bucks.

I am from a noble family - my cousin is a Marquess - and other than having a cool story to tell and being part of the aristocratic circle that's it. Maybe if monarchy, or some sort of parliamentary monarchy to be reinstated, it would make these nobility positions to be important again...

Other than that it's just a cool thing to "wear" and to be invited to parties
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Old 06-01-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Sweden
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I am from a noble family - my cousin is a Marquess - and other than having a cool story to tell and being part of the aristocratic circle that's it.
That´s the good thing with nobility, knowing your family history.
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Old 06-03-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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Monarchy was abolished here in 1973

The last royal Greek wedding
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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How could you forget Lady Diana Spencer? Her father was an earl.

They got dispossessed in some of those countries (France, Russia, I assume Germany), back in the 18th and 19th centuries, IIRC. Didn't you ever have to read depressing French or Russian novels in school, about Nobles who had lost their estates, and were desperately trying to claw their way back to their former glory, by hook or by crook, or by marriage? It wasn't pretty.Well, and then those countries experienced revolutions, so that was the end of that.

Actually, I guess there are still a few princes around, in Russia. A film was made about one, who tried to reclaim his estate, most of which had been bombed out in WWII. He'd hoped to house his family in what was left of it, back in the 90's after the USSR crashed and burned, and he hoped to turn it into a historical park. It didn't work out. The court refused to return the property title to him, even though the state had done nothing with the property; it had been abandoned for decades. Too bad. I thought it was a great idea.
Yes the Romanov family still exists with several competing factions on who claims/claimed line of succession.

Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna of Russia

Prince Andrew Romanov

Prince Karl Emich of Leiningen

Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia (died 2014)

Prince Dimitri Romanov (died 2016)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_o...ims_since_1917
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romano...ly_Association
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Old 06-03-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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Нет уж нет уж))))

As long as they stay away from Russia, they can claim whatever they like; they can stand on their heads if they wish.
It's not like Russian lower classes have thrown them out of the country for nothing at the first place.
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Old 06-03-2018, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Нет уж нет уж))))

As long as they stay away from Russia, they can claim whatever they like; they can stand on their heads if they wish.
It's not like Russian lower classes have thrown them out of the country for nothing at the first place.
Well According to Wikipedia, the Romanov Family association recognizes that the people rule over Russia, and that they have no claim to be the rulers.

"The association accepts that since 3 March (Julian Calendar) / 16 March (Gregorian Calendar), 1917 with the decree of Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich of Russia's deferral of acceptance of the throne, that the Russian Provisional Government was recognized.[3] Article IV-b of the bylaws of the Romanov Family Association states "The Members of the Association agree that all questions concerning the form of government in Russia and consequently also all matters of a dynastic character have been transmitted to the will of the great Russian people by the Manifest of Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich, which followed the abdication of Emperor Nicholas II on the basis of 'general, direct, equal and secret voting'."[1]
As a charitable endeavor, the association operates the Romanov Fund for Russia to raise money for aid projects in Russia.[4]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romano...ly_Association

However not all of the Romanovs are part of this association such as Maria Vladimirovna who wants to see the monarchy in Russia restored.

Also Nikolai Kirillovich aka Karl Emich is supported by the monarchist party to restore and take the Russian throne.
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Old 06-05-2018, 02:54 AM
 
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They are still around, but you only hear about rich ones. I know a Marquee which was middle class, and paid a large amount of money to recover the title that his great-grandfather had..but that was an eccentricity.

In Spain, you only hear about rich landed aristocracy, with lands and money....
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Old 06-05-2018, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Brussels
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In Spain they retain their titles (Duque, Conde, Grande de España, etc) but those have no value other than status/sentimental. They are usually pretty rich people with lots of properties (castles, palaces, etc)

They get invited for meetings/parties by the King from time to time but since long time they do not have any other privilege.
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Old 06-05-2018, 09:31 PM
 
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That´s the good thing with nobility, knowing your family history.
Indeed. Pretty neat to find old things... My grandmothers attic/warehouse is full of stuff she doesn't use anymore and was inherited and passed down and it's amazing...

The other day we were cleaning up a few things, and we found land deeds from 1400s and 1500s ... Also our genealogy tree still in Latin all the way until 7-8 generations ago (it stopped at my great great great great grandfather) ... it went all the way up until 900s-1000s
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