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Old 12-17-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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I didn't realize that the Celts didn't originate in Ireland and Scotland. They where from France and Germany and the Romans killed most of them. I wonder if there's any of them left in France and Germany today.


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Old 12-17-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breton_language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany
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Old 12-17-2018, 10:51 AM
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Celts aren't/weren't really an ethnic group. They were more of a linguistic group. So the Irish aren't necessarily descended from Celts in France, etc. The Celtic Gauls were supplanted by Germanic tribes (Franks in particular) not the Romans.
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Old 12-17-2018, 12:23 PM
 
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France represents!



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Old 12-17-2018, 01:29 PM
 
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There's Galicia in Spain, too.
https://www.economist.com/prospero/2...eltic-heritage

There were Celts in Turkey, too: the Galatians. https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/25/s...ot-turkey.html
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Old 12-17-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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There are people descended from Celts all over Europe and near-east Asia. The Clets were the original terror of Europe, and wherever people go, they interbred. Wholesale replacement only takes place when there is aunique circumstance, such as parts of the new world where lack of disease immunity wped out millions. Romans did not wipe them out but incorporated them, and there were even Celtic Senators.

That being said, above poster is correct that it is a language group, and you wil find the people genetically indistinguishable from most other Europeans.
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Old 12-18-2018, 07:55 PM
 
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The ethnogenesis of the Celtic culture centered in Central and Western Europe (Hallstatt, Austria and La Tene, France being considered the cores of development) and extended from Spain in the west to Anatolia in the east.

The insular Celts (Britain and Ireland) were the distant margin of that culture, having adopted its cultural features, from language to art to religion, rather late in its history. That marginality, due to distance form the core of the culture and isolation from cultural diffusion, invasion, and other forces of change, are why Celtic culture managed to survive there to this day.

The descendants of Celtic people are all over France and Germany. They speak French and German dialects now, as they have for centuries and centuries.

There are still some words, placenames, and proper names of Celtic origin all through those lands.
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Old 12-21-2018, 02:19 AM
 
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I've never heard that the Romans killed the Celts, I always thought the Celts mixed up with the Germanics, Southern Germans as far as I know are not considered Germanic but to be predominantly Celtic. Celts and Romans also mixed, the result might be the French.

Maybe you can translate this by google:

45 Prozent der Deutschen haben genetisch gesehen keltische Wurzeln
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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I've never heard that the Romans killed the Celts, I always thought the Celts mixed up with the Germanics, Southern Germans as far as I know are not considered Germanic but to be predominantly Celtic. Celts and Romans also mixed, the result might be the French.

Maybe you can translate this by google:

45 Prozent der Deutschen haben genetisch gesehen keltische Wurzeln
Interesting. If it's been determined that Germans have 45% Celtic genes, that would indicate that Celts are, indeed, an ethnicity with their own genome, not merely a cultural designation.
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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The ethnogenesis of the Celtic culture centered in Central and Western Europe (Hallstatt, Austria and La Tene, France being considered the cores of development) and extended from Spain in the west to Anatolia in the east.

The insular Celts (Britain and Ireland) were the distant margin of that culture, having adopted its cultural features, from language to art to religion, rather late in its history. That marginality, due to distance form the core of the culture and isolation from cultural diffusion, invasion, and other forces of change, are why Celtic culture managed to survive there to this day.

The descendants of Celtic people are all over France and Germany. They speak French and German dialects now, as they have for centuries and centuries.

There are still some words, placenames, and proper names of Celtic origin all through those lands.
Victor Mair has said, upon studying some of the the Tarim Basin mummies, that display characteristics of Celts, implying they're proto-Celts. He has since retracted that statement for unknown reasons. But originally, he observed that they made wool plaid garments in a characteristic twill weave, had a significant percentage of individuals with red hair, and so on. It may be, however, that red hair was common to many Indo-European peoples, not only Celts. I don't know. I believe red hair is associated with the R1b Y-DNA haplogroup.
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