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Old 02-20-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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He is right about North African especially the Algerian, big wave began right after WW2, it wasn't just Europeans and Jews but also Muslims at that time.
Actually, immigration from Algeria slowed down in the mid 1970s and even decreased during the 1980s.

Algerian immigrants in France (it doesn't includes Jews and descents of European settlers).

1946 : 22,357
1954 : 211,960
1962 : 350,482
1968 : 474,036
1975 : 711,751
1982 : 805,571
1990 : 613,593

Between 1946 and 1954
+23,700 per year
Between 1954 and 1962
+17,315 per year
Between 1962 and 1968
+20,592 per year
Between 1968 and 1975
+33,959 per year
Between 1975 and 1982
+13,401 per year
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:50 AM
 
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I always find it amusing how Americans care so much about Paris turning into a third world city.

Aren’t there enough problems in the United States to worry about?
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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Not all. African immigration start massively in the 70'.


In the 50', we get french/europeans or jews who were settlers in africa and leave to not be killed.


Black and arabs arrive massively in the 70'. Some before but the big vawes was in the 70'.
I have a slight suspision your understanding of the world stems from YouTube and internet fórums.
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:58 AM
 
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He is right about North African especially the Algerian, big wave began right after WW2, it wasn't just Europeans and Jews but also Muslims at that time.
Actually, immigration from Algeria slowed down in the mid 1970s and even decreased during the 1980s.

Algerian immigrants in France (it doesn't includes Jews and descents of European settlers).

1946 : 22,357
1954 : 211,960
1962 : 350,482
1968 : 474,036
1975 : 711,751
1982 : 805,571
1990 : 613,593

Between 1946 and 1954
+23,700 per year
Between 1954 and 1962
+17,315 per year
Between 1962 and 1968
+20,592 per year
Between 1968 and 1975
+33,959 per year
Between 1975 and 1982
+13,401 per year
Agreed.

There is even footage of Parisians congregating around "Place de la Bastille" to listen to the rules of hitler in occupied France on the radio, "this in the 40's when France was occupied by Nazi Germany" and you can still see Africans standing there worried, not to mention footage of the French army (with plenty of Arabs and blacks)

France has kept a presence in Africa for a REALLY LONG TIME.

Africans in Paris is something as old as some of the Parisian monuments itself.
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:15 AM
 
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Paris thanks to Hollywood has been sold to the North Americans as something that is museum like, full of chic stylish starving people walking by with berets and bagets and stripped shirts.

And then you head down to the Eiffel tower and you see Sarah Jessica Parker walking by in her Prada shoes!!

How Americans think Paris is.







Then they go and find a REALLY OLD, ROUGH , CROWDED, CITY with tons of history, character.


if you read books about Paris in the 1920's.... the city was crowded and flooded with poor people from all over France, Europe and even Africans.


You could see slums, with a seine river very polluted and in some parts flooding with trash (The seine was cleaned from trash in the 50's) and has become properly clean and suitable for swimming only last year.


Paris has eternally being the city of rough poor people living in crowded flats, with rough city attitudes.


The city of lust, of sin, of colorful prostitutes dotting the streets, of cancan dancers showing a bit more for a few francs, of depressed artists, and run down streets.


That is what makes Paris special…. NOT THE HOLLYWOOD SEX IN THE CITY BULLCRAP AMERICANS AND CANADIANS THINK PARIS IS.
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:23 AM
 
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Same with idiots that go to NYC thinking its gonna be romantic and magic like in those dumb romantic comedies.

Then they find a pretty rough, rude, fast, grimmy city!
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:46 AM
 
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I always find it amusing how Americans care so much about Paris turning into a third world city.

Aren’t there enough problems in the United States to worry about?
Most American's don't really care
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: france
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Originally Posted by Minato ku View Post
He is right about North African especially the Algerian, big wave began right after WW2, it wasn't just Europeans and Jews but also Muslims at that time.
Actually, immigration from Algeria slowed down in the mid 1970s and even decreased during the 1980s.

Algerian immigrants in France (it doesn't includes Jews and descents of European settlers).

1946 : 22,357
1954 : 211,960
1962 : 350,482
1968 : 474,036
1975 : 711,751
1982 : 805,571
1990 : 613,593

Between 1946 and 1954
+23,700 per year
Between 1954 and 1962
+17,315 per year
Between 1962 and 1968
+20,592 per year
Between 1968 and 1975
+33,959 per year
Between 1975 and 1982
+13,401 per year



What is the source of thoses numbers?
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:20 AM
 
Location: france
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I have a slight suspision your understanding of the world stems from YouTube and internet fórums.



I have a slight suspision you are a third worlder who benefit to live in a first world country build by whites people?
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:50 AM
 
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Paris has changed in the past 10-15 years. Graffiti all over Western European cities. Not like it used to be.

Not true of course. Being a resident of Paris, until the late nineties, I can say we had more graffiti if anything, in earlier years, than now. Paris has always been a city were dissent is expressed on the streets. The present ongoing protests, perhaps are more remanent of the late 60's in ways, but dissent, is a Parisian way of live.
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