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Old 03-08-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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That' doesn't answer the question, though. The question was, since the Swedes mainly explored eastward, not so much--westward, why is there more Swedish admixture in northern Germany, Holland, and the UK, than in Russia, Ukraine and the Baltics? Or am I misinterpreting the red squares in those areas? (A key would be nice to have...)

"Not enough admixture to shift them in that direction"? Have you ever been to Ukraine, lol? But I suppose the map is reflecting deeper genetics (aka: Ria in Ukraine) than a Viking-era Swedish presence would register?
this is not a map of direct viking influence, its a map of genetic similarity, northwest europe is genetically homogeneous due to a common origin not because of migration. There is basically no direct swedish genetic impact in the UK

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https://www.heritagedaily.com/2018/0...igrants/121487

There is no way that map represents Swedish admixture without a key I am assuming the higher the number the more genetically similar the reference populations are compared to the one sample from Sigtuna. That doesn't equal Swedish admixture it also is picking up that the reference populations and the Stiguna sample descend from a common ancestral population. You may find this link interesting.
Non scandinavians are removed from the sample
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Old 03-08-2019, 08:28 AM
 
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I can't tell what I'm looking at. Where's the key to the colors on map?

Sigtuna's actually closer to Estonia and Latvia than to Denmark; why isn't there more Swedish admixture in the Baltic states? The map says "foreigners removed" from present-day population calculations, but were they counting Russians as "foreigners"? Doesn't look like it.
It removes foreigners from the Sigtuna samples, compared to modern populations, a large % of sigtuna where immigrants. There is significant viking admixture in the Baltic states, much more than the UK for example, but they are different enough genetically for it not to matter
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Old 03-08-2019, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Syrmia, Northern Serbia, near 45 N
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It seems ancient Thracians were similar as Scandinavians genetically.
I posted autosomal result of sample from Bulgaria from the bronze age, he is the closest to modern Swedes www.city-data.com/forum/genealogy/3022610-bronze-age-sample-bulgaria-r1a-z93.html

Now this make sense Thracians, Ancestors of Swedes
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Old 03-09-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Now this make sense Thracians, Ancestors of Swedes

I am not necessarily disputing a common genetic origin of the Thracians and ancestral Swedes, but that article is twaddle.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:34 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I am not necessarily disputing a common genetic origin of the Thracians and ancestral Swedes, but that article is twaddle.
I'd always hoped that most people could tell the difference between the Bible and science...
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Old 03-09-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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It seems ancient Thracians were similar as Scandinavians genetically.
I posted autosomal result of sample from Bulgaria from the bronze age, he is the closest to modern Swedes www.city-data.com/forum/genealogy/3022610-bronze-age-sample-bulgaria-r1a-z93.html

Now this make sense Thracians, Ancestors of Swedes
its nonsense, the reason it matches most closely to swedes is similar ancestral components, similar WHG, EEF, STEPPE levels, you can find polish bronze age who are most similar to brits for example, it isn't wrong, its just thats who their deep ancestry is most similar to
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