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Despite the fact that many people INSIST that flying is the safest form of transportation, I have not flown since 1976 and I never will again.
Air travelers have NO CONTROL over whether they live or die at any given moment. At least if I am involved in a vehicle accident on the road, I may be able to do something to save myself. Whereas, when you are at 10,000 or 20,000 or 30,000 feet in the air, rolling over to the side of the road when you blow a tire (or lose an engine), is not really an option.
I wonder how many of those 228 people were on their very first airplane ride? I'm sure the baby was.
This incident will technically fall under pilot error. They had absolutely no business flying into that storm like that. I can just see the two pilots complaining about an extra 45 minutes in the air if they flew around the storm. They probably thought, it would just be a few bumps. With today's technology, they know exactly where the severe weather and thunder storms are. They are trained to fly around them, yet they choose to go right through it? No respect for mother nature. They got hammered by 100 mph up and downdraft current and it ripped that plane apart.
Very, very sad as it could have all been avoided. From the transcripts, the ordeal lasted about 15 minutes. That must have been a pure living hell for those onboard.
This incident will technically fall under pilot error. They had absolutely no business flying into that storm like that. I can just see the two pilots complaining about an extra 45 minutes in the air if they flew around the storm. They probably thought, it would just be a few bumps. With today's technology, they know exactly where the severe weather and thunder storms are. They are trained to fly around them, yet they choose to go right through it? No respect for mother nature. They got hammered by 100 mph up and downdraft current and it ripped that plane apart.
Very, very sad as it could have all been avoided. From the transcripts, the ordeal lasted about 15 minutes. That must have been a pure living hell for those onboard.
What transcripts??? From what I've been reading no one is certain of anything and won't be until or IF the black boxes are recovered.....
What transcripts??? From what I've been reading no one is certain of anything and won't be until or IF the black boxes are recovered.....
Where are you getting this from and link please
Transcripts as in the time line from the first pilot radio call they were encountering CBs to the aircrafts auto messaging system. It's been all over the news that authorities have analyzed the data and most feel the plane broke apart during flight. I was not referencing the transcripts from the black box, but rather from what we know so far.
The storm caused the crash. My point was, they are trained to fly around servere weather such as this, not through it. For whatever reason, they decided to go through it. A decision that proved fatal.
Transcripts as in the time line from the first pilot radio call they were encountering CBs to the aircrafts auto messaging system. It's been all over the news that authorities have analyzed the data and most feel the plane broke apart during flight. I was not referencing the transcripts from the black box, but rather from what we know so far.
The storm caused the crash. My point was, they are trained to fly around servere weather such as this, not through it. For whatever reason, they decided to go through it. A decision that proved fatal.
Ok and yet i also read that because of the huge oil slick some think it broke apart upon impact with the sea...also read that the storm itself was not enough to down the plane it had to be a combo of catastrophic events at once..all reports, except for the pilots about the storm and the electronic messaging are pure speculation at this point and truth be told I don't think we will ever know what truly happened unless they recover the black boxes or significant parts of the aircraft
Air travelers have NO CONTROL over whether they live or die at any given moment. At least if I am involved in a vehicle accident on the road, I may be able to do something to save myself. Whereas, when you are at 10,000 or 20,000 or 30,000 feet in the air, rolling over to the side of the road when you blow a tire (or lose an engine), is not really an option.
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you have no control over whether you will live or die at any given moment. Lets say you get in vehicle accident....car rolls for 100 feet you make it alive...step out of the car and get picked off by car passing by...if its your time to go..nothing you can do... I am going to Montego Bay next weekend..even with this, the trip is never in doubt
20yrsinBranson Actually a lot of car accidents are where you don't see it coming and you have no control. Being hit by a speeding car running a light--head on crash--happens a lot unfortunately
CarolinaCowboy Your post is interesting. Do you mean that such a storm was definitely avoidable? Could they have absolutely known about the power of this particular storm? Would that be the pilot's decision or air control?
As to the storm not being able to bring down the plane--Bob Francis formerly with NTSB said this storm with its 100mph downdraft would definitely have affected the plane and he would have been amazed if it had not. Also said it is a part of flying in that region to be very wary of weather conditions.(But what about other aircraft that went through the storm? or did they all avoid it?)
As to OP question--I will still fly and I intellectually know the odds haven't changed--but it sure makes the possibilitie more in the forefront--I never thought about falling out of the sky in mid-flight without a TWA type incident or sabotage. This is unnerving--particularly if this kind of storm exists everywhere and your life depends on the pilot's aversion to risk!
you have no control over whether you will live or die at any given moment. Lets say you get in vehicle accident....car rolls for 100 feet you make it alive...step out of the car and get picked off by car passing by...if its your time to go..nothing you can do... I am going to Montego Bay next weekend..even with this, the trip is never in doubt
I do not share your fatalistic approach. In my opinion it is irresponsible. We each have an influence moment to moment what happens to us. My thoughts are that if I do not get in an airplane that I will never die in an airplane crash. Of course, planes to FALL on people occasionally, but the possibilities of that happening are exceedingly rare (unless you live on the approach path to an airport). I prefer to have some say over the way that I go. Perhaps I will not be able to intervene or perhaps my actions will not only save my own life but the life/lives of loved ones also. I still want it to be MY CHOICE as much as possible.
I wonder how many people were on that plane that did not want to be there but instead bowed to pressures by family and friends to do so.
I've always abhorred the idea of dying alone. I don't know why, but the idea of dying with lots people has always appealed to me. If that be my choice at the end.
In a bus careening off one of those mountain roads in South America, plunging thousands of feet, or a train crash or in a plane, with hands locked together with your fellow passengers as the plane nosedives.
Yes, you might have a better chance "surviving" a car crash, but I work in a Rehab facility, and I know myself well enough, I'd never, ever have the patience of those patients who have had to endure that long, neverending process of regaining their mobility and be able to properly function again.
And some, unfortunately, will never really recover. Being a quadriplegic? Or even a paraplegic? If that be the case, I'll take death!
There is still far less risk in flying than there is in just driving home.
I would not agree with that. Just think about how many cars are on the road in the same time and how many planes in the air, then you will see that there are bilions of people driving and just some hundreads of planes flying !
However, driving a car means your life depends on YOU ! Being a passanger on a plane, your life is on some guys hands ! Big difference !
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