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Old 02-04-2010, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Houston
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And yet 95% of Germans of colour are not citizens despite being born in Germany.
Go back and read the law. The citizenship law applies to everybody. Your statements are plain stupid and false. There's no other way to put it.

Also, I would like to know where you go the 95% from. Just made that up?
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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I would trust the pool of teachers at a school more than the opinions of only two parents.
Well, I guess there is no point in continuing, there are no new aspects, this discussion is a dead-end. You home-school your kids and I don't...
Germany or not...
I do not agree with home schooling, but strongly favor additional education at home if parents are fit to do it.
I think that a peer interaction in the school is very important for young kids. Being away from home greatly contribute to their life experiences and give them opportunity to learn how to socialize with other, how to find his or her own place, and act independently. Home schooling lacks the sense of rivalry, compromises, and teamwork. Kids need to learn that there are other authorities beside their parents, how to work under pressure and follow someone else’s rules. They need to learn how to cope with distractions and temptation, how to deal with crowds and unpleasantness, how to react to peer pressure and how to defend themselves.
Home schooling depraves kids of acknowledging different opinions, varied ideas and options available outside their home. They might not always have access to all the learning tools school can provide. Kids need to develop sense of community and pluralistic society. I think that kids social development expands when they are surrounded with people of different cultures, backgrounds, opinions and ideas.
I agree that home schooling has many advantages like learning in the own speed, concentrate on their educational weakness and strength. However in my opinion home schooling does not help a student grow socially and even personally.
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:49 AM
 
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And yet 95% of Germans of colour are not citizens despite being born in Germany.
I am sure you do not mind to post an official link to give some substance to this ridiculous statement. Thank you.
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:53 AM
 
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Unjust laws call for disobedience.
Great statement, very informative - you are homeschooling?
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:31 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I am sure you do not mind to post an official link to give some substance to this ridiculous statement. Thank you.
Traditionally Germany has had jus sanguinis, but there is also a jus soli element, plus naturalization. The criteria have nothing to do with skin color.
Naturally there will be relatively few Africans compared to the millions of Turks, Italians, Serbians etc. who have been migrating to Germany for decades. But not because there were any rules that favored white people over colored ones. There has even been a program aimed at attracting Indians, but the demand on the Indian side for such green cards was somewhat limited, they just don't want to go to Germany.
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:14 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Great statement, very informative - you are homeschooling?
If I have kids I will. I've had an inside look at schools when I was a teacher for a short time. You couldn't pay me to use public schools. Too much politics in schools now rather than teaching. Won't end until teachers' unions cease to exist worldwide.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Cali
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If I have kids I will. I've had an inside look at schools when I was a teacher for a short time. You couldn't pay me to use public schools. Too much politics in schools now rather than teaching. Won't end until teachers' unions cease to exist worldwide.
I totally agree!
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Traditionally Germany has had jus sanguinis, but there is also a jus soli element, plus naturalization. The criteria have nothing to do with skin color.
Naturally there will be relatively few Africans compared to the millions of Turks, Italians, Serbians etc. who have been migrating to Germany for decades. But not because there were any rules that favored white people over colored ones. There has even been a program aimed at attracting Indians, but the demand on the Indian side for such green cards was somewhat limited, they just don't want to go to Germany.
I believe Italians do not need a visa to enter or re-enter Germany.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:45 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I believe Italians do not need a visa to enter or re-enter Germany.
Of course not, theoretically all Italians could move to Germany tomorrow
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Of course not, theoretically all Italians could move to Germany tomorrow
The same applies to Germans moving to Italy. I guess "old alliences" never really die.lol
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