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Old 07-09-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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For crunches and their predecessor situps, you really feel it. Problem is that you feel it primarily in the neck and under the chin, not so much in the abs. You put your feet into some form of restraint like a stirrup on any number of various machines or even just a decline board, and you feel it in the quads, not so much in the abs. Ever use a captain's chair? You feel it again in the legs and shoulder girdle, not so much in the abs. Hanging leg raises stresses the back real good, but the abs to a much lesser degree. Rolling wheel? Be careful of your lumbar spine but it does nothing for abs. Few yrs. ago, they came out with the "ab coaster" and everyone raved. Never tried it but it looks like the arms are doing the work.

Resistance training has been the primo hobby since 1970, age 26, but have never felt a really good ab burn that you get from any other body part.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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wtf are you talking about
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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If you feel it in your neck and chin your form is off. People tend to compensate for weaker abs by making those other muscles do the work.

I think an easy way to train the brain as to what making ab muscles work feels like is to do standing contractions or planks. Those really don't give you an option to use other muscles as much. You will feel a burn if you push yourself to hold position and do enough reps. Everyone has a different level that will challenge them. With the standing contractions try holds of at least 30 seconds and planks at least 1 minute. Repeat if possible. Wait a day or two to see how sore it makes you before trying again. If you are not a little sore increase your plank time or standing contraction reps.

When you get strong enough you will feel more balanced and you may want to try some russian twists.

Another easy one to do if your back is ok is "6 inches" where you lay on your back and hold your legs 6'' from the floor.

How to Do a Plank - Plank Exercises - Men's Fitness

How to Do Six Inch Killers (with Pictures) - wikiHow

http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/russian-twist
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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But hes been traning since 1970 didnt you read. Apparently his ab exercises have been chin exercises. Did you see his other thread. He is at 2% body fat but has zero abs. He is a troll kind of like me. Except im a useful troll.

All BS aside, who cares about burn. Its not an indication of a good or bad workout.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:56 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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If you feel it in your neck and chin your form is off. People tend to compensate for weaker abs by making those other muscles do the work.

I think an easy way to train the brain as to what making ab muscles work feels like is to do standing contractions or planks. Those really don't give you an option to use other muscles as much. You will feel a burn if you push yourself to hold position and do enough reps. Everyone has a different level that will challenge them. With the standing contractions try holds of at least 30 seconds and planks at least 1 minute. Repeat if possible. Wait a day or two to see how sore it makes you before trying again. If you are not a little sore increase your plank time or standing contraction reps.

When you get strong enough you will feel more balanced and you may want to try some russian twists.

Another easy one to do if your back is ok is "6 inches" where you lay on your back and hold your legs 6'' from the floor.

How to Do a Plank - Plank Exercises - Men's Fitness

How to Do Six Inch Killers (with Pictures) - wikiHow

Russian Twist Exercise Guide and Video
Front planks are easy. one minute's no problem, but I didn't realize their value for the rectus abdominis. Thought they were some sort of generalized stabilizer. Side planks for the obliques are much harder.

What they're calling "six-inch killers" is one from my past but with a different name. I think we called it leg raise.

You apparently hold isometric exercises in high regard. OK, I'll give them a try. Thanks.

The Russian twist I also recall but it didn't have a name. It's a tough one. The guy in the picture is holding a 25-lb. plate. Forget that; I need something lighter. One of the commenters at the web site said that the feet should be off the floor! No way could I manage that.

Thanks again.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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How old are you, sir?
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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how old are you, sir?
69.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Believe it or not, This simple exercise will give you a six pack very soon!


Slim and Six Pack workout.mp4 - YouTube

My guy friends use this particular video to exercise their abs. All got pretty good result. As for me, I don't want six pack on me, I just want my abs to be toned but soft. So I don't over exercise it.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Folsom
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Front planks are easy. one minute's no problem, Side planks for the obliques are much harder.

What they're calling "six-inch killers" is one from my past but with a different name. I think we called it leg raise.

The Russian twist I also recall but it didn't have a name. The guy in the picture is holding a 25-lb. plate. Forget that; I need something lighter. One of the commenters at the web site said that the feet should be off the floor!.
I agree, 1 minute front planks are easy. Side planks, and lateral front planks are fun too. Can you beat the new world plank record, 3+ hours?

On Fridays, we do super do super abs. Try this, consecutively for as many rounds as you can do (without stopping or putting your feet down). Good luck!!!
1. Knee hugs, 15 reps
2. Crunches, 20
3. Leg raise, 15
4. Crunches, 30
5. Jack knife, 10
6. Medicine ball twist, 20 each side
7. Twist crunch, 10
8. Crunches, 20
9. Jack knife, 10
10. Sit up, 10
11. Crunches, 10
12. Twist crunch, 15
13. Crunches, 10
14. Jack knife, 10
15. Straddle sit-up, 15
16. Jack knife, 10
17. Medicine ball twist, 20 each side
18. Leg raises, 20
19. Jack knife, 10
20. Hold crunch, 10
21. Crunches, 20
22. Leg raise, 15
23. Iron cross, 10
24. Knee hugs, 15
25. Jack knife, 10
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:43 AM
 
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Believe it or not, This simple exercise will give you a six pack very soon!


Slim and Six Pack workout.mp4 - YouTube

My guy friends use this particular video to exercise their abs. All got pretty good result. As for me, I don't want six pack on me, I just want my abs to be toned but soft. So I don't over exercise it.
Thanks for sharing the video but these exercises appear to be geared for high reps which are great for endurance purposes, but I believe that hypertrophy is best developed by exercises that permit only 8-12 reps.
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