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The way I have heard 'clean' used is to refer to unprocessed, natural foods. It does not necessarily connote the perceived healthiness of a given natural food.
Thus,
Corn on the cob is clean, corn tortillas are not very clean, and Cool Ranch Doritos are dirty as all hell.
Grass-fed fresh red meat is 'clean', hormone and antibiotic pumped, corn-fed beef is not very clean, and Taco Bell taco meat is dirty as all hell.
Blueberries are clean, a blueberry compote made with added cane sugar is not very clean, and a Hostess blueberry pie is dirty as all hell.
Right, show me a person who got fat because they ate too many fruits.
I think I see the disconnect here. You are thinking: "clean eating" = weight loss; when I (and most people into health/fitness/exercise) think: "clean eating" = overall, healthy balanced complete nutritional intake. Those are two completely different things.
Its the reason why you dont hear of a "fruitarian" diet, but lots of completely healthy people on the planet eat a "vegetarian" diet.
For several years I worked at a very large Fortune 100 financial services firm and every day at lunch a bunch of overweight co-workers would go for their "brisk walk" exercise and return to drink their crazy smoothies. They would exchange smoothie recipes and would all reject my comments about how they will NEVER achieve their results because of their HIGH sugar shakes (in addition to poor eating habits and lack of real exercise). They all thought they were being healthy because their shakes contained fruit like half cup of strawberries, a banana, frozen mixed fruits, yogurt, etc. They were essentially drinking 6 to 8 servings of fruit. NONE of them lost weight!! NONE of them got healthier!!! Fruits are good, but if we are thinking of clean (i.e., HEALTHY) eating, they should be eaten at a minimum.
Sounds like you read an article or two that talked about macro nutrients and you started this thread all the while knowing you wanted to throw out a "macro nutrient" comment to sound like an expert.
I think I see the disconnect here. You are thinking: "clean eating" = weight loss; when I (and most people into health/fitness/exercise) think: "clean eating" = overall, healthy balanced complete nutritional intake. Those are two completely different things.
Its the reason why you dont hear of a "fruitarian" diet, but lots of completely healthy people on the planet eat a "vegetarian" diet.
For several years I worked at a very large Fortune 100 financial services firm and every day at lunch a bunch of overweight co-workers would go for their "brisk walk" exercise and return to drink their crazy smoothies. They would exchange smoothie recipes and would all reject my comments about how they will NEVER achieve their results because of their HIGH sugar shakes (in addition to poor eating habits and lack of real exercise). They all thought they were being healthy because their shakes contained fruit like half cup of strawberries, a banana, frozen mixed fruits, yogurt, etc. They were essentially drinking 6 to 8 servings of fruit. NONE of them lost weight!! NONE of them got healthier!!! Fruits are good, but if we are thinking of clean (i.e., HEALTHY) eating, they should be eaten at a minimum.
Sounds like you read an article or two that talked about macro nutrients and you started this thread all the while knowing you wanted to throw out a "macro nutrient" comment to sound like an expert.
Hey bud, what's with your constant throwing of personal attacks when someone disagrees with you? It's like that thread about butts.
Anyway, first you say it isn't about losing weight. Then you say it is when you mention coworkers who didn't lose weight. I'm not sure you know what your argument is about.
Finally, who here, including myself, said anything about fruitarian diets or about them being great?
For several years I worked at a very large Fortune 100 financial services firm and every day at lunch a bunch of overweight co-workers would go for their "brisk walk" exercise and return to drink their crazy smoothies. They would exchange smoothie recipes and would all reject my comments about how they will NEVER achieve their results because of their HIGH sugar shakes (in addition to poor eating habits and lack of real exercise). They all thought they were being healthy because their shakes contained fruit like half cup of strawberries, a banana, frozen mixed fruits, yogurt, etc. They were essentially drinking 6 to 8 servings of fruit. NONE of them lost weight!! NONE of them got healthier!!! Fruits are good, but if we are thinking of clean (i.e., HEALTHY) eating, they should be eaten at a minimum.
Too many variables are compounded here. Was it the lack of exercise, poor eating habits, or the eating of fruits? Read your own post again. Blaming it on the fruit is just irresponsible. Are you a Paleo supporter?
Let me use another example. Sugar is the primary source of energy in anaerobic activity.
So, it's ridiculous to say that active people should limit their sugar intake to levels of inactive people. If someone is burning 4000 calories a day using a ton of anaerobic activity, they are going to need more sugar than someone who is burning 2000 calories a day, doing little to no anaerobic activity. A one size fits all strategy of "just eat less sugar and keep fruits to a minimum" is a cop-out.
Corn on the cob is clean, corn tortillas are not very clean, and Cool Ranch Doritos are dirty as all hell.
Grass-fed fresh red meat is 'clean', hormone and antibiotic pumped, corn-fed beef is not very clean, and Taco Bell taco meat is dirty as all hell.
Blueberries are clean, a blueberry compote made with added cane sugar is not very clean, and a Hostess blueberry pie is dirty as all hell.
LMAO...like your comparisons!
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