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Humans aren't meant to run, and run, and run, for miles on asphalt. That's not what we're built for, and it will cause you to have knee replacements if you don't stop before, say, 35 years old.
We are meant to meander around on soil and grass, and run in short spurts of 1/2 mile or less after prey or to escape danger.
This crazy idea of pounding ourselves for 6 miles several times a week will ruin your skeleton.
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Every runner I know well, except one, has had knee surgery. That's probably 2 dozen people. Every female runner I know has had it.
I've only known one non-runner to have knee surgery, and she is obese.
Anecdotal evidence is so fun!
I'm 64 and was a serious runner for 25 years. I ran over 200 races so I met a lot of other runners. I know many people who have had knee replacements or need knee replacements. Only two were athletic. One played a lot of basketball until he was around 50 The other was a very competitive runner until his 60s. All the other people I know who have had knee replacements were moderately to severely overweight and non-athletic.
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JUMPING JACKS - Its shocking to me now days just how crazy ineffective jumping jacks are as an exercise. I havent done any in more than 20 years and your post just reminded me of them. Even as a kid in school when we'd do them, I never ever broke a sweat and questioned just how effective they were. Squats, Burpees and Mountain Climbers are all much more effective and better exercises.
SITUPS/CRUNCHES WITH INTERLACED FINGERS BEHIND HEAD - This one was so bad that it was actually considered to be almost dangerous and likely to lead to an injury. Most people would start the situp/crunch by pulling on the back of their head with their interlaced fingers instead of using their ab muscles. Very easy to get neck injury like this. NEVER EVER interlace the fingers behind the head on situps/crunches.
This was basically my junior high gym classes in the late 1960s. Throw in "6 inches" where you lay on your back and lift your leg 6 inches off the floor and hold them or do flutter kicks. Also some of those stretching exercises where you do repetitions of bending over and touching your toes.
I remember when growing up, the general consensus was that you had to go to the gym to get in shape and build muscle, but you can actually do all of those things in your house. With technology nowadays, you can even just use your TV to get the same amount of exercise as you would be by paying to drive to and from a gym. I love using video workout programs because it keeps me motivated and encourages me to finish the workouts, which is hard when I workout by myself at a gym. I recently starting using Rough Around the Edges from Openfit and I have been loving it so far: https://www.openfit.com/p/rough-around-the-edges
The workouts in Rough Around the Edges are designed using different forms of martial arts, like karate and kickboxing and they only take 30-45 minutes per day so anyone could fit it into their schedule. There are 6 instructors, who are all professional stuntwomen that have worked on films like Fast and the Furious and Captain America: Civil War. Openfit is offering a free 30-day trial which you can use to check out their many programs before having to subscribe to their service.
I have been in the fitness industry since the 80's with my masters in sports medicine. I feel like schools of thought come and go. The things that are not done any longer are not "dangerous" in and of themselves; they are dangerous because people fail to do them perfectly- not because of some weakness of mind, but because people are not built in absolute perfection- and injury occurs. Certain exercises may be particularly prone to being executed incorrectly, so more injuries result, and they are then touted to be bad exercises.
As for running:
If the entire body were absolutely perfect- how the feet strike and leave the pavement, the height of the arch, how the talus meets the tibia (and so on to other parts of the ankle), all the way up through every joint function- just perfect- the knees would not get damaged. Damage occurs because there is one teeny tiny little issue that over time and miles, causes something to wear down.
As for running:
If the entire body were absolutely perfect- how the feet strike and leave the pavement, the height of the arch, how the talus meets the tibia (and so on to other parts of the ankle), all the way up through every joint function- just perfect- the knees would not get damaged. Damage occurs because there is one teeny tiny little issue that over time and miles, causes something to wear down.
That makes it likely that serious running aficionados learn enough about running to perfect such small issues, while many others may do a huge amount of "ignorant" running and harm themselves.
If that extra protein intake had good quality, it might help someone who had deficient nutrition from their regular diet. But powders and drinks made from soybeans, milk or other sources, have lost most of their value for protein purposes. Their amino acids have been degraded by the dehydration and other processing. Their exposure to oxygen and the time elapsed after processing, before consuming them, all take a toll on the quality.
LOL, this is literally all nonsense.
Also, dairy protein (whey and casein) are easily the highest quality protein you can get.
Yes, good call. I can think of no runner whom I personally know who has not had either foot, ankle or knee injuries. I can't say the same about bicyclists, they seem to be able to do that forever.
I know a very fit runner who had his FIRST hip replaced in his 40's and was scheduling his SECOND - he ran a lot of marathons. Extremes are bad...there are so many ways to stay healthy that don't kill your joints and it is very silly to pick the most "macho" ways that will hurt you later.
Along those lines, at around that same time period common wisdom held that supplements like protein shakes were a waste of money and didn't do anything. Obviously these days we know that those who work out and certain age groups benefit from extra protein intake whether it be food or shakes.
The protein thing is mostly not supported by science. It is one of those things for the current youth to report on in a thread like this in their adulthood. Almost every person eating a normal healthy diet gets more than adequate protein, even vegetarians, and even athletes. The current protein craze is a marketing gimick akin to the fat-free one of 20 years ago. And the scientific studies say even for elite athletes high levels of protein beyond the recommended can damage the liver and kidneys and do not result in much in the way of significant gains.
The protein thing is mostly not supported by science. It is one of those things for the current youth to report on in a thread like this in their adulthood. Almost every person eating a normal healthy diet gets more than adequate protein, even vegetarians, and even athletes. The current protein craze is a marketing gimick akin to the fat-free one of 20 years ago. And the scientific studies say even for elite athletes high levels of protein beyond the recommended can damage the liver and kidneys and do not result in much in the way of significant gains.
I don't know about the "current" protein thing, but there is a lot of empirical understanding about what works and doesn't work to build muscle mass.
What's always necessary is to pay attention to the wordings of things, because that's where agendas are buried.
And also who paid for the research.
Latest study I've read--as of last week--is that (Surprise!) an ingestion of high-quality protein right after a weight workout to exhaustion does, indeed, increase muscle utilization of that same protein. They did tests with radio-marked protein to see where it went after eating. It went right into the muscle fibers within minutes.
I know a very fit runner who had his FIRST hip replaced in his 40's and was scheduling his SECOND - he ran a lot of marathons. Extremes are bad...there are so many ways to stay healthy that don't kill your joints and it is very silly to pick the most "macho" ways that will hurt you later.
My sister-in-law had both hips replaced in her 40s. She was not a runner. Her parents, aunts, uncles, and a few cousins have had a total over 25 hip and knee replacements. None of them were runners. None of them had ever seriously exercised in their lives and all are/were overweight to various degrees. Would your friend have still needed a hip replacement in his 40s if he had never run? We will never know.
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The protein thing is mostly not supported by science. It is one of those things for the current youth to report on in a thread like this in their adulthood. Almost every person eating a normal healthy diet gets more than adequate protein, even vegetarians, and even athletes. The current protein craze is a marketing gimick akin to the fat-free one of 20 years ago. And the scientific studies say even for elite athletes high levels of protein beyond the recommended can damage the liver and kidneys and do not result in much in the way of significant gains.
Can you provide a citation to the examples where high levels of protein damaged livers and kidneys?
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