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Old 11-27-2010, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Some years ago I traveled on business to Seoul, South Korea. (Nowadays, I'm happy to not be there...yikes!). I succumbed to purchasing a few Ro-Rexes, as we called them. Hey; why not? Cubic Zerconium clusters on an ultra-thin fake gold plating that goes green in a few months.... The works within however, were and still are quite reliable. A Korean copy of a standard Casio, Seiko or other Japanese movement. The original manufacturer, when I looked into it, was the aptly named Korean Watch Company, but with the accent differently pronounced, like the original "Corean" ceramics out of the US.

Anyhow, the movement was perhaps called intermittent? A step-wise, one movement per second sweep hand, whereas the real Rolexs™ have a continuous (or perhaps about 10/second) movement that appears to be continuous.

Well, now it's all changed. If you look up Breitlings or Rolexes, you'll find all sorts of very high-end knock-offs. A few years ago I liked the appearance of a Wohler watch that you can buy all day long for about $150 on e-bay. I'm not even sure to this day that there's an original Euro-brand - Swiss watch called Wohler; the website you go to when you look at the packaged warranty material does not even hint at a European source.

A friend of mine who wanted to be seen wearing a Breitling (and hey; who wouldn't, if it was real...) purchased, for about $350, a spectacular knock-off. He dove with it and it stayed waterproof, it keeps excellent time, it's made from stainless steel and is thus not turning green, and the band is very well made.

So this for $4600,...

Breitling Men's 'Bentley Motors T' Stainless Steel Chronograph Watch | Overstock.com

versus this...

Online Shopping: Save up to 70% off! Free Shipping! (http://www.foruggs.com/views.asp?hw_id=29152&class_id=63&sort_id=856&nsor t_id=896 - broken link)

...for $199. WTHeck, huh?

What's the point of paying for the real one I wonder? Obviously the technology exists to build a very good watch, visibly identical to the branded original, for far less than Breitling™ or Rolex™ are charging. Exclusivity is lost if the Asians are huddled in their shops turning out high quality replicas by the gah-zillions.

I know that Rolex™ used to pay US Immigration & Naturalization to confiscate faker watches from returning businessmen coming home from S. Korea. Ditto on faked high-end luggage. (funny, since a lot of the real branded fashion trash is actually made over there in sweat shops!)

BTW, I also wanted a pair of Nike™ sneakers, but they didn't have any at the shop I visited. I was about to walk out the door when the owner said "No please! You stay! I make you some Nike righ-now!" And he proceeded to stitch the correct (faked) Nike™ logo onto an unmarked pair of sneakers.

Any thoughts?
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Old 11-27-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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It's trademark infringement. I abhor fakes. If the quality is that great they should use their own trademark and not steal someone elses.
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Old 11-27-2010, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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When it comes to watches, buy the real thing or buy something you can afford. Whem I see someone wearing knock off of a real watch it makes me wonder what else is fake about that person.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:57 PM
 
Location: FLG/PHX/MKE
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Exclusivity is lost if the Asians are huddled in their shops turning out high quality "replicas" by the gah-zillions.
Not at all. It's quite exclusive to own the real thing, when others cannot afford what you have, but covet it so much that they would acquire a fake, in order to appear like you.
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:30 PM
 
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The main problem with those Chinese knock-off's is that few ppl trust those merchants with their CC number to place an order. Plus you can't tell just by pics how good of a replica they are, especially in terms of case finishing, heft & detailing of the numerals.

In many ways though I think you're right about knock-off's hurting the reputation of certain brands. Whenever I see a guy with a Rolex or Omega, I immediately ask myself is it real or not. In fact my dad doesn't wear his Submariner because one of his client's jokingly asked him if he picked it up on his trip to Hong Kong.
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Old 11-28-2010, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Photo is fake, it's not the same quality compared with original. Try to hold real Breitling next to it and you will see the difference. Actually Breitling is not that much high-end brand... It's more sport watches and for flying fans. If you want some fakes, go get patek philippe or similar

Obviously manufacturing price of real Breitling is not 5k USD. You are basically paying for "feel" of hand-made watches made in Swiss manufacture with long tradition.
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:21 PM
 
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Watches hold a of lot of sentimental value to me and I keep them for a long time, so I like to buy watches that I can take pride in. I would never feel comfortable buying a fake. I'd save up and splurge on the real thing or buy a quality watch in my price range.

Anyway, I think the businesses that create fakes are horribly unethical. They're stealing another brand's name to generate dishonest profits.
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Originally Posted by rifleman View Post
Some years ago I traveled on business to Seoul, South Korea. (Nowadays, I'm happy to not be there...yikes!). I succumbed to purchasing a few Ro-Rexes, as we called them. Hey; why not? Cubic Zerconium clusters on an ultra-thin fake gold plating that goes green in a few months.... The works within however, were and still are quite reliable. A Korean copy of a standard Casio, Seiko or other Japanese movement. The original manufacturer, when I looked into it, was the aptly named Korean Watch Company, but with the accent differently pronounced, like the original "Corean" ceramics out of the US.

Anyhow, the movement was perhaps called intermittent? A step-wise, one movement per second sweep hand, whereas the real Rolexs™ have a continuous (or perhaps about 10/second) movement that appears to be continuous.

Well, now it's all changed. If you look up Breitlings or Rolexes, you'll find all sorts of very high-end knock-offs. A few years ago I liked the appearance of a Wohler watch that you can buy all day long for about $150 on e-bay. I'm not even sure to this day that there's an original Euro-brand - Swiss watch called Wohler; the website you go to when you look at the packaged warranty material does not even hint at a European source.

A friend of mine who wanted to be seen wearing a Breitling (and hey; who wouldn't, if it was real...) purchased, for about $350, a spectacular knock-off. He dove with it and it stayed waterproof, it keeps excellent time, it's made from stainless steel and is thus not turning green, and the band is very well made.

So this for $4600,...

Breitling Men's 'Bentley Motors T' Stainless Steel Chronograph Watch | Overstock.com

versus this...

Online Shopping: Save up to 70% off! Free Shipping! (http://www.foruggs.com/views.asp?hw_id=29152&class_id=63&sort_id=856&nsor t_id=896 - broken link)

...for $199. WTHeck, huh?

What's the point of paying for the real one I wonder? Obviously the technology exists to build a very good watch, visibly identical to the branded original, for far less than Breitling™ or Rolex™ are charging. Exclusivity is lost if the Asians are huddled in their shops turning out high quality replicas by the gah-zillions.

I know that Rolex™ used to pay US Immigration & Naturalization to confiscate faker watches from returning businessmen coming home from S. Korea. Ditto on faked high-end luggage. (funny, since a lot of the real branded fashion trash is actually made over there in sweat shops!)

BTW, I also wanted a pair of Nike™ sneakers, but they didn't have any at the shop I visited. I was about to walk out the door when the owner said "No please! You stay! I make you some Nike righ-now!" And he proceeded to stitch the correct (faked) Nike™ logo onto an unmarked pair of sneakers.

Any thoughts?


A Rolex is a piece of jewelry with a clock attached. Buying a fake is just cheating yourself.
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: York, PA
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A friend of mine who wanted to be seen wearing a Breitling (and hey; who wouldn't, if it was real...) purchased, for about $350, a spectacular knock-off. He dove with it and it stayed waterproof, it keeps excellent time, it's made from stainless steel and is thus not turning green, and the band is very well made.

Sure..it may stay "waterproof" for a while, but when water starts seeping in and it stops running. What will he do then? Ship it back to Korea? He could be charged, if the watch is found and inspected by customs with the shipment of counterfiet goods. Frankly, I would be embarrassed if I had to go to court for a fake piece of junk.

It's better to shell out the extra money for the real, genuine and quality product.

I personally wouldn't shell out thousands for a watch, but I also certainly wouldn't buy a fake either.
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