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Old 01-11-2011, 02:48 PM
 
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Monroe has always been a 'meh' to me. Don't see what all the fuss is about. I guess back in her day she was amazing, but compared to the women out there now she's nothing special.

 
Old 01-11-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: NYC
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You are not a size 12 with a 22 inch waist. If I remember right, Twiggy, had the same waist size. 32-22-32. Smaller hips but a size 0. Does 4 inches extra really make somebody go from a size 0 to a 12?
"Vintage" size 12, the size 12 before we became a nation of fat azzes with sizes changed to make us feel better. I wear a modern day size 4 to 6, and a vintage 10-12.

Monroe's measurements were such that I guarnatee you she did not wear clothing off the racks. Her hips and bust were size 12ish, and her waist much smaller. Everything would have been customized.

And in terms of hips, yes, 4 inches are a HUGE difference in terms of pants size.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I haven't read this whole thread but I understand where the OP is coming from. I consider myself curvy but have also heard obese women with undefined waists describe themselves as curvy. You just don't know what you're getting with that term.

Strangely, I have the exact same measurements as Marilyn Monroe, even the height/weight is the same. I typically wear a size 4-6 skirt/pants and size 8 blouse. I can easily wear clothes off the rack. Am I missing something?

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Old 01-11-2011, 05:35 PM
 
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You are not a size 12 with a 22 inch waist. If I remember right, Twiggy, had the same waist size. 32-22-32. Smaller hips but a size 0. Does 4 inches extra really make somebody go from a size 0 to a 12?
How old are you? Size 12, even just 20 years ago, was at least TWO full sizes smaller. I can imagine that in MM's time, size 12 was quite fetching. There was no such thing as a size "0" in her day.

ALSO, many people that get quoted as discussing sizes, are talking about UK sizes. Huge difference.

And 4 inches is a huge change in size.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Gilbert Arizona
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Back in the day, a 12 was about a current size 6ish 25-26" waist. I used to wear a vintage size 14 hip 12 waist, 16 bust.I made my own clothes. I ued to be 38-26-38 1/2. Childbearing had levelled me out and I can usually buy off the rack size 10 now. I think Marilyn would be about the size of Scarlett Johanssen -a size 4 when thin, up to an 8 when chubby. She had tiny bones, which is part of what made her curves so pronounced. Small shoulders and rib cage.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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How old are you? Size 12, even just 20 years ago, was at least TWO full sizes smaller. I can imagine that in MM's time, size 12 was quite fetching. There was no such thing as a size "0" in her day.

ALSO, many people that get quoted as discussing sizes, are talking about UK sizes. Huge difference.

And 4 inches is a huge change in size.
Disagree with above statement; looked at a list of classic actresses working in the 1950s. In today's US sizing standards, Katharine Hepburn was definitely a size 0 and Grace Kelly was probably a 0 or 2. Although most women moved away from the "ultra thin" movement of the '20s/'30s by that decade, there were certainly some celebrities that hung onto it.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Disagree with above statement; looked at a list of classic actresses working in the 1950s. In today's US sizing standards, Katharine Hepburn was definitely a size 0 and Grace Kelly was probably a 0 or 2. Although most women moved away from the "ultra thin" movement of the '20s/'30s by that decade, there were certainly some celebrities that hung onto it.
No, the point is in today's sizes Katharine Hepburn and Grace Kelly might be size 0, but in their day they were not, as there was no such animal.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Gilbert Arizona
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Agreed. Hepburn might have been a 0 today, but due to sizing changes. a size 0 then would be like a little girls size 10S at Limited Too. Vintage 12=modern 6. 34-25-35 .Vintage 12 also =1970's-80's size 8. Sizes are changing.
Hepburn's figure today probably 0-2.
Grace Kelly, size 4.
Sophia Loren size 6-8 with the waist taken in. Size 10 blouse.
Ethel on Lucy Show size 12, Lucy size 8.

Nobody was a 0. Ladies sizes ran 8-16. An 8 was like a 33 hip that's pretty small!!
 
Old 01-12-2011, 09:11 PM
 
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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As soon as the discussion turned to sizes that is when this thread went downhill.

Sizes are NOT important. Heck, my wife is 5' 2" tall, 122 pounds with 34Bs. She has clothes in sizes of 0, 00, P, XS, S, XP, 5, M. So with all this vanity sizing its useless argue at all about sizes of clothes.

There is a significant difference between "PLUMP" and "CURVY" but the plump/overweight/obese women refuse to identify themselves as being plump/overweight/obese while describing themselves on singles sites, so, they just use the word "CURVY". Then, they get all disappointed when the MALE they are supposed to meet turn them down and away because of false advertising. Men think of curvy as being a nice sexy woman. If one of my buddies describe a woman as being "curvy", its pretty much guaranteed that she's Kim Kardashian or Sofia Vergara like.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 10:38 PM
 
Location: 60630
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So if I am a size 10 now ( I think ) with a 29 inch waist, I would be a size 18 back in the days! That's refreshing to know!
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