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Old 01-02-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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What is your opinions of suits with high button stance like this one?

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Old 01-02-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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that high gorge/high button stance is uber trendy and shouts British faux-bespoke, but it can quickly get dated and looks a bit out-of-place in a corporate environment. If you're going to wear it for cocktail/lounge/dressy event occasions--and have the funds to throw it out after a couple yrs--go for it! I met the owner/manager of a swank enoteca here in LA dressed-up in a similar high gorge suit & all the girls at our table just swooned like he was a freakin contestant on the Bachelor or something.
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Too trendy...I'm thrifty, so I always recommend classic suit cuts that wear well and don't get dated quickly. It looks fine, but suits are investments in my world, so I'd tend to prefer a style that had some shelf life.
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:54 PM
 
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I am not up with suit trends, but it reminds me of old suits, say from the 30s (?) or so with a better fit.

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Old 01-05-2011, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Agree, it's too trendy. A good suit in a classic cut will do you for decades, provided you maintain weight.
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Old 01-05-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: NYC
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that high gorge/high button stance is uber trendy and shouts British faux-bespoke, but it can quickly get dated and looks a bit out-of-place in a corporate environment. If you're going to wear it for cocktail/lounge/dressy event occasions--and have the funds to throw it out after a couple yrs--go for it! I met the owner/manager of a swank enoteca here in LA dressed-up in a similar high gorge suit & all the girls at our table just swooned like he was a freakin contestant on the Bachelor or something.
They swooned because on a man with the right build, that style looks incredibly sexy.
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:18 AM
 
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You know the gray 3 button suit that DR EARTH served up in the photograph

looks very much like the UNITED STATES Air Force uniform (dress) for enlisted men.

Commonly, called the "McPeak" uniform (after Gen. Merrill McPeak who championed this design change for the Air Force uniform in the early nineties)
Originally this same civilian style 3 button business suit , "McPeak" design uniform for the Air Force featured no distinction in design from enlisted & officer versions, as neither had epaulets (those shoulder-military thingys...)
Air Force officers generally hated the "McPeak" uniform as it looked to civilian business suit like and the "McPeak" uniform called for banded stripes on lower sleeves to denote rank of officers, which to many Air Force officers appeared to be less military like and too much like a DELTA or United Airlines pilot.
.............long story less long, "McPeak" uniform was soon out as Gen McPeak had originally designed it to be.
The Air Force simply kept the 3 button civilian business suit design that McPeak uniform had been and made no physical or color changes to it and made it the Enlisted uniform. The Air Force simply had the exact same 3 button McPeak suit jacket made with epaulets on it for OFFICERS.
(they did away with rank stripes on/near the sleeve cuffs to denote officer's rank and returned to badge rank atop the jacket/epaulets)

The crazy thing is the AIR FORCE uniform in this 3 button civilian suit design style that Gen. McPeak brought into the Air Force looks great (it is a medium Navy Blue color..................officially it is Air Force Blue COLOR SHADE:1620)
It is solid medium Navy Blue, and believe it or not, if one simply changes out the three 7/8"inch metal uniform jacket buttons for normal blue plastic, or blue marble plastic suit buttons of the same approximate size from a store like Hancock Fabrics or Jo Anns that carries hundreds of buttons and sewing/cloth stuff....
........if one simply changes the three metal jacket buttons to plastic & then sews three matching plastic, very small suit cuff buttons on each sleeve for decoration to make it look like a civilian business suit.....(sure you could put four buttons on each sleeve, if you wanted to for decoration instead of three on each sleeve)
.....this Air Force uniform has sleeves which are barrelled for lack of a better term, where are seemed like a pants leg or trouser leg and DO NOT have a working cuff design.................still you could add the plastic matching suit cuff sleeve buttons and it would look almost exactly like DR EARTH's photo of the gray civilian suit in the above photograph.

Here is another interesting thing that some of you might wish to know:
There are at least several sellers of SURPLUS Air Force dress uniforms that are selling the jackets at various prices but usually between $10 and $39 depending on the different ebay military surplus retailer.
Because all of the jackets and trousers are all of the exact same AIR FORCE BLUE color shade 1620, all will perfectly match.
The Uniforms are of a serge weave 55% Poly/45% Worsted Wool which is basically the same formula as the excellent blend suits from the fifties through the nineties. Mililken mills pioneered the 55% Dacron Poly/45% Worsted Wool blend more than sixty years ago and Hart Schaffner & Marx became the first suit maker in 1951 to use this 55%/45% blend which Hart S. Marx called "VIRACLE" .
Lighter weight and excellent draping of fabric and much less likely to become rumpled or wrinkled than 100% wool. It is also lighter and can be worn more comfortably in summer and tropical areas.
Back to the Air Force (suit) uniform.
Trousers are available from many surplus sellers, and can be found for next to nothing in some cases, though it might be easier to find sizes from retailers selling surplus for the $13 to $20 each range.
The trousers are traditional plain front (single crease) and are of very high quality 55% poly/45% worsted wool fabric in a serge weave cloth with exactly matches the jacket.
Because COLOR: 1620 matches all other of the same uniforms, this medium navy blue matches perfectly and it is a great looking color too!
........just a thought for somebody that is maybe on a low budget -or- just a little daring that might consider an AirForce Uniform (Enlisted, without epaulets)........................change the buttons from metal to plastic suit buttons and you'll have a very nice looking 3 button handMe down...as Rod Stewart once sang with the Faces about 43 years ago.
Google pictures of: AirForce dress uniform, McPeak uniform etc and then view the uniforms without any military rank/insignia.....
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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Dr Earth's 3 button example and the mid '90's Gen McPeak uniform/current USAF dress uniform are nearly alike.

Change the metal buttons to plastic blue marble suit buttons and you'd have a stylish suit instead of a current issue military dress uniform. The color, SHADE:1620 is a very rich looking medium navy blue
Used & Surplus examples can be found for next to nothing. Just remember that you want a plain, unadorned uniform.
Guys, listen up, even if you don't care for so much for the "suit".........
The (Shade: 1620) trousers make a great pair of dress slacks just by themselves. (they are DRY CLEAN ONLY 55%poly/45%worsted wool, in a four season, tropical weight) The trousers are traditional, single crease, nicely tailored pants which are not baggy, and look very current and stylish! One would never know that you were wearing "uniform" trousers as slacks because they appear as just very very nice navy blue dress slacks.
HERE ARE photos of the USAF dress uniform:
File:Gen Merrill McPeak 1993.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

File:US Air Force Mens Service Dress.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ladies, the USAF dress uniform and particularly the USN (navy) dress uniform, offer very nice looking skirts that are extremely conservative in staple colors of medium navy blue(that would be Air Force: shade 1620) and then there is black with the USN, I believe. You can sometimes find surplus skirts and trousers for your hubby and teen-aged boys in these blue, black and the USN also has ice cream guy, snow white trousers too and the USArmy has dark christmas tree green slacks. There are a host of very very nice offerings in US Military wardrobe which can be used for civilian dress, and look very proper. There are the James Bond style raincoats (overcoats/trenchcoats) that look like stuff that high end retailers sell. They come in Blue, Black, and an attractive Greenish/khaki. Some are current and some styles are earlier from previous issue uniforms and are not current. Just saying that the US Military has had some stylish clothing (not much) but some nice stuff that can be converted to upscale civilian use as well.
Look around: Air Force, Coast Guard, Navy, Marines, even the green dominated Army has some very nice pieces.
Then there is military surplus from England and Italy, as well as Germany, France, etc... that have very very nice pieces. You've got to do some searching but generally Overcoats, Skirts, the handsome German naval blazers (black double brested, gold button peak lapel from seventies issue..) and the similar USN blazer look great. There is the mid eighties issue Coast Guard Reefer Coat that is blue and looks fantastic. You've got Vietnam era late sixties USN peacoats with six buttons in DARK NAVY BLUE(up through about '69 manufacturing) as around '70 or so they became Black . There are some very nice dark grey and blue ladies wool, cold weather overcoats that look like things from very high end stores. It's just another resource for quality, wearable clothing items. It is true that 99.1% of military clothing is only suitable for military look or painting the ceiling of your bathroom or for your husband to wear to go hunting or do yard work in, but there are also these other pieces that are suitable in a civilian setting and would not appear as if you were wearing army surplus clothing.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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Mens suits are boring and look all the same. That's why I like women's skirt suits way better!
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:24 AM
 
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The really high quality military surplus clothing is the older stuff. Linda's comments remind me of how my mother reclaimed my father's old Korean war era navy peacoat and used it as a winter coat for about 10 years. When you compared the high quality heavy fine wool of that coat to what is issued as a US Navy peacoat today. They are incomparable. The fabric quality and workmanship was so much better back then.
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