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Jeff Goldblum isn't traditionally viewed as a sex symbol...
Johnny Depp is very handsome...
But how many times have you heard these men praised for their BODIES?
Whereas I've heard women with average bodies being called sexy. I guess because men are just more turned on by the female form in general, and women have been brainwashed to think of females as objectively the 'prettier' sex.
I don't have a washboard stomach (6/12 pack) and don't want one. The guys who have the best ones had to really cut some weight before their photoshoot. You can have a flat stomach and still be fine. Who wants a 30 or 32" waist anyway. I remember when I joined my gym years ago, that is what the kid working there was implying. I laughed at him. I had a 34" in the 8th grade. Don't want one now either!
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He's very common on women's lists of sexy men. And my husband loves Geena Davis so it's perfect (or was).
I guess I don't understand what you're saying. Men and women are attracted by different things, so we have different criteria than you do. I do think the "butterface" is more common among the women that straight men find attractive, if that's what you mean. When women list what they are first attracted to, they usually mention eyes, mouth, smile, hands, face, etc., moreso than butt, thighs, pecs, etc. Men are more likely to mention legs, breasts, butt, or they say things like "I'm an ass man."
We view sexiness differently, that's all.
Granted...yet the fact women will obsess over their own body/constantly comment on/compare/be aware of other women's bodies just shows how the female form has been objectified to a greater extent. That might be just a side-effect of how attraction works between the sexes.
But obviously, if a woman won't accept even a guy with a normal physique, but some artificially sculpted gym rat's physique (some women) it shows some women do care quite a bit about a guy's bod and this standard is different.
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I still say ridiculous. You are talking fantasyland. No one really knows what people would look like. They can only guess or make (usually false) assumptions based on artists renditioning in their paintings/sculptures.
You can say if what you ask "holds true" for today, if the subjects are make believe/fantasyland people of someone's imagination of what they think/assume/guess people would look like in our natural "state" from like the 1500s or earlier.
Erm just watch National Geographic. The people in hunter gatherer societies are closest to what we are supposed to be like living on a natural diet, having physical activity.
What's more, they are scantily clad so one can observe the human form as it should be.
Men are not weak, have the requisite muscles, but tend to be lean...women can be lean but also have curves, a medium between today's fashion ideal and the overweight ideal of 18th century Europe.
Erm just watch National Geographic. The people in hunter gatherer societies are closest to what we are supposed to be like living on a natural diet, having physical activity.
What's more, they are scantily clad so one can observe the human form as it should be.
Men are not weak, have the requisite muscles, but tend to be lean...women can be lean but also have curves, a medium between today's fashion ideal and the overweight ideal of 18th century Europe.
Nah, it's just what some peoples idea of what a "fit" body is. Dan Henderson is a GREAT example. Do you see a six pack or twelve pack? Hell no you don't. He's meaner than a hornet and will break your legs and chin. http://martialartsinportlandoregon.c...n-Portland.jpg
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That's cause most of y'all have skinny little frog legs!
Women generally carry more strength in their lower half, men in their upper.
My husband claims my legs were the first thing he noticed.. which I've always found hard to believe.
Well yes men typically have greater upper body strength. I read the average women has 50% of the upper body strength and 65% of the lower body strength of the average man.
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Don't want one now either! 
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