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Old 07-25-2012, 04:12 PM
 
Location: NoVa
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How do you get a decent job? Who will hire a person whose entire visible body is covered with ink other than a tattoo shop? Inking oneself everywhere in sight has got to limit opportunities. I know it does. It has happened to family members. Although then they portray themselves as victims. But they made a choice to create an appearance which is not socially acceptable in many job roles (rightly or wrongly).

And it would seem the "addiction" of it would certainly qualify as some type of psych dx, as does alcohol or other such addictions. When they impact your ability to function in life, ==> problem.
So now you change your thread from, "Is it self mutilation?" to "How can you get a job?" I work in a medical office when I am working. I currently am not. I had to keep it covered for the most part, but the patients rather enjoyed my tattoo and always asked me if they could see the rest of it....

I did have a bit of a problem when it showed too much one day, with mgmt. I did not have a problem with that, however, I did have a problem with the fact that people had them on their forearm not covered at all with no problem.

What's your deal anyway?
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Old 07-25-2012, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I'm 37 years old and work for a major software company as a senior level architect. My company has absolutely no policy on tattoos.

If a customer requested me to wear long sleeves to cover my tattoos, I would. Simple.
I work at a school and mine has no policy on them either.
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Old 07-25-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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How do you get a decent job? Who will hire a person whose entire visible body is covered with ink other than a tattoo shop? Inking oneself everywhere in sight has got to limit opportunities. I know it does. It has happened to family members. Although then they portray themselves as victims. But they made a choice to create an appearance which is not socially acceptable in many job roles (rightly or wrongly).

And it would seem the "addiction" of it would certainly qualify as some type of psych dx, as does alcohol or other such addictions. When they impact your ability to function in life, ==> problem.
I'm an aircraft mechanic/parts specialist for private jets and general aviation.

From my experience, the 'lower' the job (retail, warehouse, minimum wage customer service) the more they care about tattoos. The higher up you get on the ladder, the less they care as long as you get the job done. When I was working at a convenience store for $12/hour my regional manager flipped out if she saw my tattoos... however, at my 60k job my bosses couldn't care less. Odd how that works, eh? Costco has a policy on tattoos showing, but I doubt Google does.

People who say their tattoos are holding them back aren't trying hard enough, and they need to get the education and skills to get a higher paying job in a better company where nobody cares.

As for 'addiction', it's not meant in the same vein as alcohol or drug addiction. People who are alcoholics need alcohol to function, I consider myself 'addicted' to my tattoos because I'm always drawing and thinking of new designs that I would love to have on my body. The last tattoo I received was 2 or so years ago and I'm not freaking out at all...but rather waiting until I'm ready for another one.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:16 PM
 
Location: NoVa
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I'm an aircraft mechanic/parts specialist for private jets and general aviation.

From my experience, the 'lower' the job (retail, warehouse, minimum wage customer service) the more they care about tattoos. The higher up you get on the ladder, the less they care as long as you get the job done. When I was working at a convenience store for $12/hour my regional manager flipped out if she saw my tattoos... however, at my 60k job my bosses couldn't care less. Odd how that works, eh? Costco has a policy on tattoos showing, but I doubt Google does.

People who say their tattoos are holding them back aren't trying hard enough, and they need to get the education and skills to get a higher paying job in a better company where nobody cares.

As for 'addiction', it's not meant in the same vein as alcohol or drug addiction. People who are alcoholics need alcohol to function, I consider myself 'addicted' to my tattoos because I'm always drawing and thinking of new designs that I would love to have on my body. The last tattoo I received was 2 or so years ago and I'm not freaking out at all...but rather waiting until I'm ready for another one.
Nice post, JetJockey!
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Yakima WA
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How do you get a decent job? Who will hire a person whose entire visible body is covered with ink other than a tattoo shop? Inking oneself everywhere in sight has got to limit opportunities. I know it does. It has happened to family members. Although then they portray themselves as victims. But they made a choice to create an appearance which is not socially acceptable in many job roles (rightly or wrongly).

And it would seem the "addiction" of it would certainly qualify as some type of psych dx, as does alcohol or other such addictions. When they impact your ability to function in life, ==> problem.
I worked at a business with a no visible tattoo policy. Yet over half the people working there had visible tattoos. So many people have tattoos that it's difficult to enforce this policy. Although I highy respect any business that does enforce it.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:13 AM
 
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MOST people who get tattoos during todays fad will regret the decision when they get older and the fad is over. Lots of tats look nice and cool TODAY and maybe next year but unless you get expensive and painful removal surgery, you are stuck with your tattoos with the rest of your life. That could be another 80 years! That is a long time to look at something that was kind of neat and cool in 2012.

Once I cut my hair really short, I thought it looked really sharp, for about two days, then I hated it. But you know what, I grew it out and now the too short haircut is only a memory. With a tattoo, the bright idea of yesterday is going to stare back at you and everyone who interacts with you forever!
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:28 AM
 
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If the extensive tatooing is a well-though out overall design, it can be fascinating and beautiful. The Japanese are the masters of this. But Americans most of the time go in for "sushi tatoos," a dab of this here, a bit of that there, something else over there...until the end result is a grossly unattractive hotch-potch. Tatooing is an art, if an obscure folk one, and getting tatooed should reflect that.

However, the messes one used to see on "Miami Ink" were awful....despite one of the female tatooers unending gasping of "Awesome!"
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Doral, FL
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What I don't understand is that tattoos used to be reserved for the lower class and dregs of society. Like people who ended up in jail and were murderers and rapist. Now everybody is getting one. How did that happen? What was the attraction? I will never understand.

I also don't understand why would any human being want something permanently etched in their skin? What purpose does that serve? I personally hate having anything permanent on my body. My nature is that I love having options and the ability to revert back to normal if I hate the changes I make to my body like dying my hair or getting a texturizer (which I've done both and hated). With tattoos, you don't have that option. It's for life. And that's something I could never fathom with my mentality. I would go nuts.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Up in the air
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If the extensive tatooing is a well-though out overall design, it can be fascinating and beautiful. The Japanese are the masters of this. But Americans most of the time go in for "sushi tatoos," a dab of this here, a bit of that there, something else over there...until the end result is a grossly unattractive hotch-potch. Tatooing is an art, if an obscure folk one, and getting tatooed should reflect that.

However, the messes one used to see on "Miami Ink" were awful....despite one of the female tatooers unending gasping of "Awesome!"
This.

I've never received a tattoo in a parlor that had 'flash' up on the wall. I've been tattooed by two different artists and ALL they did was custom work. I've looked through hundreds of portfolios and thousands of tattoos before deciding on an artist, and even then it was another few weeks of drawing, stenciling, re drawing, more stenciling etc etc. until the needle touched my skin. I have around 9 hours done on my lower arm (and it's just outlined...no color yet) and it took 6 months to draw it up.

There's a big difference between the spring-break-dolphin-on-the-ankle tattoo and a custom, well done, well thought out piece of work. Unfortunately, most people see the former instead of the latter because people who actually take their time on tattoos aren't as keen on showing them off. It's a private matter, and a lot of good work is flat out stolen. Part of my tattoo was featured in a magazine and I immediately had at least 5 knock-offs that I knew of. Never again. I don't participate in magazines, editorials or competitions with my tattoos anymore.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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What I don't understand is that tattoos used to be reserved for the lower class and dregs of society. Like people who ended up in jail and were murderers and rapist. Now everybody is getting one. How did that happen? What was the attraction? I will never understand.
Actually, in America, tattooing started to become more accepted after WWII. Many soldiers and sailors of that era came home from the war with tattoos.


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I also don't understand why would any human being want something permanently etched in their skin? What purpose does that serve?
My tattoos all mean, or represent, something important to me. Not all tattoos mean something, though, and I see no reason not to get tattooed just for the sake of the art itself, if the image moves you that much.


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I personally hate having anything permanent on my body. My nature is that I love having options and the ability to revert back to normal if I hate the changes I make to my body like dying my hair or getting a texturizer (which I've done both and hated). With tattoos, you don't have that option. It's for life. And that's something I could never fathom with my mentality. I would go nuts.
Maybe you should ask yourself why the thought of permanency frightens you so?
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