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Old 01-23-2013, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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I read an arrogant, narcissistic, possibly educated snob who loves repeatedly using big words (the same ones mind you), to feel superior to others, or to just plain feel educated (because perhaps he's not viewed that way away from this forum).

Funny that the focus is on women ... things that make you go "hmmmm"!
Personal attacks like that are against TOS, you might care to review them. Were the words they used too big?
Be civil, no personal attacks, flaming, or insults. We may attack ideas (politely) but we do not attack the speaker of the idea. Be careful with your words, there is a point where being direct crosses a line into blunt, in-your-face hostility. Please, report bad posts instead of engaging in flame wars on the boards. Insulting another member or a moderator will not be tolerated anywhere on this website. This includes Direct Messages and Reputation Comments.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Noblesville, IN
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Personal attacks like that are against TOS, you might care to review them. Were the words they used too big?
Be civil, no personal attacks, flaming, or insults. We may attack ideas (politely) but we do not attack the speaker of the idea. Be careful with your words, there is a point where being direct crosses a line into blunt, in-your-face hostility. Please, report bad posts instead of engaging in flame wars on the boards. Insulting another member or a moderator will not be tolerated anywhere on this website. This includes Direct Messages and Reputation Comments.
So when you called me a feminazi, you were just disagreeing with me?

KEWL!

Pot meet kettle.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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So when you called me a feminazi, you were just disagreeing with me?

KEWL!

Pot meet kettle.
LOL ... and yet the OP is getting away with a lot of little personal attacks here and there throughout this thread.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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So when you called me a feminazi, you were just disagreeing with me?

KEWL!

Pot meet kettle.
You're inventing something that never happened. I said I can't stand feminazi's in general terms, it wasn't directed at you - but you seem to want to take that personally. That's on you.
This kind of crap is going to get this thread shut down. Try to address the topic.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Noblesville, IN
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LOL ... and yet the OP is getting away with a lot of little personal attacks here and there throughout this thread.
I've noticed.

And while I think I could still discuss this topic, I feel that some folks just only want to feed their side without opinions from a different side. It's rather tired now...
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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baloney. Women have all the power, you are not victims of men, I would say it's mostly the other way around if truth be told. Men don't create your problems, you create them for yourself.

Look at Napolitano, she is one of the most powerful women in the world - I rest my case.
Where are all those women in power? How many female heads of state or business managers do you know compared to males? And I don't know how you can say with a straight face that men are mostly victims of women rather than vice versa. Maybe you should take a look at rape or domestic abuse statistics Or are you one of those people who believe those poor innocent men who raped or murdered women were simply victims of female provocation, like the chauvinist pigs in this thread do?

You know one successful woman and that's enough for you to conclude that women in general are more powerful than men. That's child's logic.

Anyway, I wasn't even talking about "the world", I'm talking about this forum. If you take this thread in isolation, it doesn't seem so bad but you should look at it in context. This is just one of many threads that criticize what women do. Imagine if about 90% of the threads on this board were criticizing why black people do what they do. Why do black people wear weaves? Why do black people bleach their skin? Why do black people get plastic surgery? And the conclusion of every thread is that black people simply want to be white. Would you NOT say that this is racist? Would you NOT wonder why there was so much focus on black people and not other races? This is no different and to dismiss anyone who raises objections to this as a "feminazi" is simply an easy way not to deal with the reality of gender discrimination.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Noblesville, IN
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You're inventing something that never happened. I said I can't stand feminazi's in general terms, it wasn't directed at you - but you seem to want to take that personally. That's on you.
This kind of crap is going to get this thread shut down. Try to address the topic.
It certainly was NOT clear in your post. I literally laughed out loud when I read it because I couldn't be further from that term. And you calling people names is what's going to get it shut down, honey.

My claim about this topic is that the OP is sure he has all the answers to why women wear makeup. He's put those answers into two categories. He cannot fathom a world where a woman can't go to her boss or to HR to settle an unfair matter. He cannot (and from your comments, neither can you) fathom that Jet Jockey's examples happen in the real world. You can act all indignant but truth is truth. Who are any of us to say what happened to someone is insignificant or false? I believe by you taking the stance that you do, you are discounting her experience...which btw, you basically said in plain English.

I think the problem is that you expect people to act the right way...and the real world says that people rarely act the right way. But hey, if you live in a world where everyone is perfect, good for you. Again, I stand by my original statement where I said both you and the OP are narrow minded....at least here, based on your words.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: In a cave
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Where are all those women in power? How many female heads of state or business managers do you know compared to males? And I don't know how you can say with a straight face that men are mostly victims of women rather than vice versa. Maybe you should take a look at rape or domestic abuse statistics Or are you one of those people who believe those poor innocent men who raped or murdered women were simply victims of female provocation, like the chauvinist pigs in this thread do?

You know one successful woman and that's enough for you to conclude that women in general are more powerful than men. That's child's logic.

Anyway, I wasn't even talking about "the world", I'm talking about this forum. If you take this thread in isolation, it doesn't seem so bad but you should look at it in context. This is just one of many threads that criticize what women do. Imagine if about 90% of the threads on this board were criticizing why black people do what they do. Why do black people wear weaves? Why do black people bleach their skin? Why do black people get plastic surgery? And the conclusion of every thread is that black people simply want to be white. Would you NOT say that this is racist? Would you NOT wonder why there was so much focus on black people and not other races? This is no different and to dismiss anyone who raises objections to this as a "feminazi" is simply an easy way not to deal with the reality of gender discrimination.
You clearly don't live in reality. Again, yelling things louder (virtually) than others and slamming them personally doesn't make your point better. It only adds to the foolishness it represents.


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Old 01-23-2013, 12:24 PM
 
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I kindly call BS on this assertion. It is sexual harassment, and any good lawyer would have sued them sideways for any kind of verbal or written mention of makeup leading to a failure of promotion. On top of the legalities of that kind of situation, why would you even want to work at an employer where they hold sexual/aesthetic appeal over skills? Additionally, if you actually work in a windowless office with the only human interaction being through a radio how moronic is the management when they come to this conclusion?

A.) Sue them
B.) Work for a better company
C.) Potentially more to the story
No, I didn't sue and there was zero ways to prove it, especially considering it was a 19 year old girls word against a well respected older business owner. Plus, I lived in a small town and getting another job in that industry would have been impossible if I had sued. I had a friend who moved away because she was blackballed after filing a sexual harassment suit against her employer. I quit after that happened.

It was nearly 10 years ago..I'm not working there anymore.

And yes, its all true.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:29 PM
 
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Anyway, I wasn't even talking about "the world", I'm talking about this forum. If you take this thread in isolation, it doesn't seem so bad but you should look at it in context. This is just one of many threads that criticize what women do. Imagine if about 90% of the threads on this board were criticizing why black people do what they do. Why do black people wear weaves? Why do black people bleach their skin? Why do black people get plastic surgery? And the conclusion of every thread is that black people simply want to be white. Would you NOT say that this is racist? Would you NOT wonder why there was so much focus on black people and not other races? This is no different and to dismiss anyone who raises objections to this as a "feminazi" is simply an easy way not to deal with the reality of gender discrimination.

Racism is not taboo amongst my circle of friends, nor should it be on CD (start your own thread perhaps?). You should be able to openly discuss anything you'd like, it is the beauty of the 1st amendment and no matter how brutal the subject all discussion, argument and exchange of thoughts promotes knowledge and thought (which is generally agreed upon as good). It has become "off-limits" solely because it is currently being used as a wedge in society and advancing certain causes.

With that being said, the point of this thread has nothing to do with weaves or black people (even though weaves have a quasi-correlation to facial makeup) but about the psychological aspect of why women range from wearing lots of makeup daily to sometimes/moderate amounts to those who don't. The self-perceived reason they do, and the psychologically agreed upon reasons, the reasons some do and some do not.

Again by your insulting measure of my understanding of women, there is simply nothing I could possibly know about a woman and their psychology because I simply am I man. Clearly this is absurd, men and women can read both the same or opposite sex's intentions in a host of areas. I really didn't want to come across that I "know the answer to everything" because obviously I do not, and the wisest people know they know very little in life. I simply know the prevailing, psychological reasoning for makeup but wanted to hear from the common woman as to why they think they do.

Some people are honest, some lie, some are confused, some are not. Ultimately it is like everything else in life.

I've learned a couple things from this thread

I knew this thread would probably bring out some hostile responses, but straw man arguments, bashing males as out of touch and the host of other reasons/excuses that have been mentioned are simply ridiculous and meant to derail the thread.
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