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Old 06-27-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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I've found people I know (60s) aren't dressing to look younger or perceived "age appropriate", but basically staying in the clothing that fits their mind/lifestyle. and buying what fits comfortably (mentally & physically)
Very true.
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:51 AM
 
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Maybe it isn't generational and it just has more to do with personality.

Some older people (read the comments here, especially from the women) insist on feeling better about themselves by putting down other women, including younger women. What an attitude to suggest that you won't grow old or get sick because you did Jazzercise or used sunblock. Some women were "mean girls" in junior high school and feel good about themselves based only on their looks and have to put other women down, and they will be "mean girls" in the geriatric ward as well.

Same for men. If they were the highly competitive jocks in junior high school, they will still be the highly competitive jocks at Shady Pines Nursing Home.
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:56 AM
 
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I did see an article in the July/August 2013 edition of "More" magazine "Age Appropriate Summer Fashion: Stylish not Skimpy." I can't be the only woman over 40 who is trying to find a style that doesn't look like desperation to compete with 20 or 30 year olds.

And vanity sizing causes some issues, too. Stores like Chico's carry sizes from 0 to 3, just to appeal to older women who want to wear a size 0.

I was just observing and questioning why that is so important. If you know it's really a size 14, why is it important to see a size 0 in the tag?
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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I did see an article in the July/August 2013 edition of "More" magazine "Age Appropriate Summer Fashion: Stylish not Skimpy." I can't be the only woman over 40 who is trying to find a style that doesn't look like desperation to compete with 20 or 30 year olds.

And vanity sizing causes some issues, too. Stores like Chico's carry sizes from 0 to 3, just to appeal to older women who want to wear a size 0.

I was just observing and questioning why that is so important. If you know it's really a size 14, why is it important to see a size 0 in the tag?
Hey, I don't get that either!
I am what I am, a number on a label will NOT change that.
Ya got me!
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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Maybe it isn't generational and it just has more to do with personality.

Some older people (read the comments here, especially from the women) insist on feeling better about themselves by putting down other women, including younger women. What an attitude to suggest that you won't grow old or get sick because you did Jazzercise or used sunblock. Some women were "mean girls" in junior high school and feel good about themselves based only on their looks and have to put other women down, and they will be "mean girls" in the geriatric ward as well.

Same for men. If they were the highly competitive jocks in junior high school, they will still be the highly competitive jocks at Shady Pines Nursing Home.
What is it, exactly that bothers younger people about:

Older people in charge of their own lives? Why this fight to relegate them to a neat little cubbyholes marked, "Old" "Worn Out" "Irrelevant" "Unappealing (or even meaner: Gross) Why all the annoyance that some older people are fighting back against these damaging stereotypes?
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Old 06-28-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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What is it, exactly that bothers younger people about:

Older people in charge of their own lives? Why this fight to relegate them to a neat little cubbyholes marked, "Old" "Worn Out" "Irrelevant" "Unappealing (or even meaner: Gross) Why all the annoyance that some older people are fighting back against these damaging stereotypes?
Well, I think it's a bit mean to look at previous generations as "old" or "dowdy" or "frumpy" because they went gray, cut their hair, wore more comfortable clothes, and didn't use Botox and Viagra.

I also think it's "mean" for the media and peers to pressure people who are aging naturally to use so much cosmetic or surgical intervention or else be seen as "lazy" or "letting themselves go" or even worse "old."

I do think that women who placed so much worth on their looks when they were younger will have a much more difficult time with the aging process.
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Old 06-28-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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The Lifestyle Lift commercial testimonials actually even state that the facelift was really a "healthy" thing, and that is simply not true. It is a cosmetic procedure. It has nothing to do with health.
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Old 06-28-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Well, I think it's a bit mean to look at previous generations as "old" or "dowdy" or "frumpy" because they went gray, cut their hair, wore more comfortable clothes, and didn't use Botox and Viagra.
My mom doesn't dress frumpy, but she never went to a gym, so even though we are the same weight, she's a size or two bigger, she's flabby. And she went grey at a young age. She also smoked most of her life, and has a lot of age spots or skin damage from the sun. So she looked much older even in her 40's and 50's than women generally do today. The 40-something women I see, and even some 50-somethings, still look young and vital, are very trim and have a lot more energy than women in previous generations did at those ages. Of course, it helps to not have given birth, but some middle-aged women with kids look great, too. Times have changed.
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Old 06-28-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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The Lifestyle Lift commercial testimonials actually even state that the facelift was really a "healthy" thing, and that is simply not true. It is a cosmetic procedure. It has nothing to do with health.
Well, I think commercials are going to talk like that because of course, they want to sell their product.
It doesn't mean we all buy into it.
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:43 PM
 
Location: One foot in CT one in KS
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I understand where both sides of this debate are coming from.

I look good for my age even though I'm boxy in shape but it's basic care taking and healthy habits that have me looking the way I do. I care that I look and am natural, healthy and interesting in a boho kind of way. I don't dye my hair, get manicures, wax, whiten etc.

I could not be a slave to Pilates, the gym, the manicurist, the colorist, the waxer, the cosmetic dentist, the make-up counter, the exclusive boutiques but if people want to spend their money and time doing these things I don't care. At some point there will be diminishing returns on efforts to stave off age. The reaper isn't called "grim" for nothing.

And if the OP wants to cut and perm her hair at 60 to the blue hair style and wear orthopedic shoes more power to her but she will be judged just as she is judging the women that are working against the clock. It's human nature to think another way f doing things is stupid, lazy, over the top.

The key is to thine own self be true, project a competent public image and who cares what anyone else thinks or does. Frankly I have a lot of practice at this being a rebel born into a bevy of beauties so I think I might have an advanced degree in this topic.
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