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Old 09-13-2013, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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I normally don't use a lot of smilies, but I think I'll make an exception this time. I don't know how else to really express how I felt while reading this paragraph.


Which simply proves that smilies do serve a purpose in other than face-to-face communication.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Not.here
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A lot of money is spent on external items that will create a mask that we think will give the illusion of being more attractive than what is under the mask. I wonder, how much attention is given to what we consume and spend on the types of food that will actually enhance one's natural beauty?
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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About six months ago I entered the "burst out into a huge sweat at any time" cycle of menopause.

EVERYHING except mascara melts off, so I wear moisturizer and mascara.... until this phase is over.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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I don't consider deodorant, soap, toothpaste and shampoo beauty products, and I doubt the survey does.
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The first 7 items would be considered personal hygiene products, not beauty products.
My initial knee jerk reaction was the same. However, if I really stop to think about it and be honest, the truth is, all of those things...

  1. toothpaste
  2. fluoride rinse
  3. shampoo
  4. conditioner
  5. body wash
  6. facial cleanser


...are indeed beauty products and not just personal hygiene products.

It is possible to use Dr. Bronner's liquid peppermint soap to do EVERYTHING above. ONE bottle for teeth, skin and hair.

However, I choose to use 3 different cleansers...one for body, another one for my face, and yet a third for my hair. Why? Because they all do slightly different things. Moisturizing. Anti aging. Scalp soothing/frizz smoothing. And the conditioner certainly is not a hygiene necessity. And the toothpaste and rinse? I use enamel strengthening and whitening formulas. I'd wager that the majority of women have the same kind of routine with the same kind of justifications.

Yet none of these things are absolute necessities for basic hygiene. Or rather, it's not absolutely necessary to use 6 different products to do the job of 1 or 2. It's VANITY, pure and simple. Therefore, I think they qualify as beauty products.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Although there are doubtless exceptions, I think we males are so fortunate that societal expectations allow us to just appear as we are. I would hate to spend even five or ten minutes fooling with my face, although I do shave and that's about five or ten minutes, so perhaps that is the trade-off.

For a life-time (now 69) I have used only dental floss, toothpaste, mouthwash, shampoo (no conditioner necessary for me), bar soap in the shower, and underarm deodorant.

No lip balm, no special facial cleanser (why isn't bar soap good enough?), no creams or moisturizers. I really feel sorry for you women in that regard, but I do not blame or criticize because I would not expect anyone to ignore societal expectations.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:10 PM
 
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Yet none of these things are absolute necessities for basic hygiene.
It doesn't matter which type of product you use toothpaste, soap, and shampoo are definitely necessities for basic hygiene.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:51 PM
 
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It doesn't matter which type of product you use toothpaste, soap, and shampoo are definitely necessities for basic hygiene.
Yes, but my point is that when we choose to use 4 or 5 products when we can technically get the basic hygiene part done with just 1 or 2 products...we're really moving away from basic hygiene and into beauty/vanity.

One bottle of this:



...to cover body, face and teeth washing needs = basic hygiene necessities.

Or even, one $0.99 tube of Pepsodent + a single bar of Ivory soap = basic hygiene necessities.


When we start getting into, for example...premium whitening toothpaste + shea butter ultra moisturizing body wash + AHA exfoliating facial cleansing gel + argan oil shine enhancing shampoo (+ frizz defying/color preserving conditioner + skin smoothing/hair minimizing deodorant)...that's more in the territory of beauty/vanity products.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:52 PM
 
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For a life-time (now 69) I have used only dental floss, toothpaste, mouthwash, shampoo (no conditioner necessary for me), bar soap in the shower, and underarm deodorant.

No lip balm, no special facial cleanser (why isn't bar soap good enough?), no creams or moisturizers. I really feel sorry for you women in that regard, but I do not blame or criticize because I would not expect anyone to ignore societal expectations.
The skin on your face is more delicate than on the rest of your body, and most bar soaps (e.g. Ivory or Dial) are too harsh/over drying. Other body washes may leave a film, which isn't such a big deal on your body (well, unless you have body acne), but it's not great on the face where you'll end up with clogged pores. Gentle soaps like Dove aren't so bad to use on your face, but if you're looking for an anti aging or exfoliating cleanser (or some other kind of specialty cleanser like acne fighting or rosacea calming)...then Dove just isn't gonna cut it.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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My initial knee jerk reaction was the same. However, if I really stop to think about it and be honest, the truth is, all of those things...

  1. toothpaste
  2. fluoride rinse
  3. shampoo
  4. conditioner
  5. body wash
  6. facial cleanser


...are indeed beauty products and not just personal hygiene products.

It is possible to use Dr. Bronner's liquid peppermint soap to do EVERYTHING above. ONE bottle for teeth, skin and hair.

However, I choose to use 3 different cleansers...one for body, another one for my face, and yet a third for my hair. Why? Because they all do slightly different things. Moisturizing. Anti aging. Scalp soothing/frizz smoothing. And the conditioner certainly is not a hygiene necessity. And the toothpaste and rinse? I use enamel strengthening and whitening formulas. I'd wager that the majority of women have the same kind of routine with the same kind of justifications.

Yet none of these things are absolute necessities for basic hygiene. Or rather, it's not absolutely necessary to use 6 different products to do the job of 1 or 2. It's VANITY, pure and simple. Therefore, I think they qualify as beauty products.
why the flouride rinse...
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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why the flouride rinse...
I took terrible care of my teeth in my late teens and early 20s, always falling asleep without brushing my teeth after all night study or party sessions. I also grind my teeth when I'm stressed out and eat/drink a lot of acidic foods/beverages. I'm paranoid about enamel erosion and loosing my teeth early. Otherwise, I'd be using a whitening rinse. Or whitening strips...but I heard those are bad for the enamel.
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