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Old 09-29-2013, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I once read an interesting book on the harems and harem life in the old Turkish Ottoman Empire. The concubines in the Seraglio (Harem) were depilating their bodies for hundreds of years. Why? Because hairlessness was deemed - rightly or wrongly - as feminine. The Turks were rather hairy and macho guys themselves and they liked their women soft, smooth, and girlish looking. They used cosmetics, perfumes, wore their hair long and in elaborate coiffures, etc.

I reiterate: women tend to be less hairy than men, and by removing their body hair their femaleness is enhanced.
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That very well might be true for a group of women whose purpose in life was to lounge around and be sexually available for powerful men. We can probably assume that the average shepherdess or scullery maid wasn't spending much of her time bathing and removing hair.
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Old 09-29-2013, 05:01 PM
 
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I once read an interesting book on the harems and harem life in the old Turkish Ottoman Empire. The concubines in the Seraglio (Harem) were depilating their bodies for hundreds of years. Why? Because hairlessness was deemed - rightly or wrongly - as feminine. The Turks were rather hairy and macho guys themselves and they liked their women soft, smooth, and girlish looking. They used cosmetics, perfumes, wore their hair long and in elaborate coiffures, etc.

I reiterate: women tend to be less hairy than men, and by removing their body hair their femaleness is enhanced.

The opposite holds true for males. When we consider the terms we use for a manly man: brawny, rugged, he-man, macho, butch ... the image that comes to mind includes all those secondary characterists of maleness: tall, broad shoulders, strong arms, hairy chest ...
Yes, the majority of women shave in an effort to appear more attractive, and also to comply with cultural norms. It seems most men find shaved legs, and underarms more attractive and feminine. A more recent development is that many men find shaved genitals attractive, and visually appealing for whatever reason. Maybe they just want to see everything with no hair in the way, or they find it more feminine, but it's no more likely to mean secret pedophiliac desires than preferring a woman with shaved legs.

I was thinking about the original question, and I realized there have been times, usually when I'm with my pets, that I do find it odd that humans often shave off a great deal of their hair. Most animals have fur, or feathers covering their skin, and the thought of them without their covering is generally not an attractive thing, yet many of us walk around with bare skin everywhere, and that's considered attractive. It is sort of weird.
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Old 09-29-2013, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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You're quite the silly sausage.

I'll pass on looking like a wookie, thanks.
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Old 09-29-2013, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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A person that prefers a smooth body is no more a pedophile than a person that prefers a hairy body a zoophiliac.
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Old 09-29-2013, 10:15 PM
 
Location: CA, U.S.A.
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Yes, the majority of women shave in an effort to appear more attractive, and also to comply with cultural norms. It seems most men find shaved legs, and underarms more attractive and feminine. A more recent development is that many men find shaved genitals attractive, and visually appealing for whatever reason. Maybe they just want to see everything with no hair in the way, or they find it more feminine, but it's no more likely to mean secret pedophiliac desires than preferring a woman with shaved legs.

I was thinking about the original question, and I realized there have been times, usually when I'm with my pets, that I do find it odd that humans often shave off a great deal of their hair. Most animals have fur, or feathers covering their skin, and the thought of them without their covering is generally not an attractive thing, yet many of us walk around with bare skin everywhere, and that's considered attractive. It is sort of weird.
Then you understand my perspective.~ ^_^
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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I'd be curious if women never shaved their legs, would they always have nice soft hair on their legs?
Majority would have shorter and soften hair than most men.
Shaving really does make it coarser and thicker.

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While visually it would be a shock from the conditioning of seeing nice smooth legs on a female (me like, me like) would an unshaven all natural slightly hairy leg be that offensive if we saw them more often?
Oh, most definitely!! It's all in the perception.
Back when unshaved legs were the norm (still are in some places), shaved ones would looks weird, like "bald", "necked", etc. Repulsing, even. Much like, I suppose, it might feel to the OP.


Even one person's perception can go back and forth (if you keep an open mind) a few times in a lifetime. I know I myself can totally imagine and get into the feelings of both ways!

Popularization through moves, etc. has a huge effect. I suspect, since by nature men usually DO have more body hair than women, at some point somebody wanted to enhance the difference, get even more feminine look by removing all leg hair... The trend eventually caught on
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Is that so? So then human eyebrows and body hair are technically fur? Because those don't grow continuously.
Neither does any other kind of body hair: if allowed to grow naturally, it reaches a certain length (which is typically longer after shaving ), then stops. Check out for yourself!

Hey, even head-hair (for most people) can not grow indefinitely!

That's exactly why some people can not grow their hair longer than mid-back or even shoulder-length (for some). It just stops growing or/and falls out because the time has come, and new hairs replace the old ones; the overall length being determined by personal differences in speed of hair-growth and each hair follicle lifespan
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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A more recent development is that many men find shaved genitals attractive, and visually appealing for whatever reason. Maybe they just want to see everything with no hair in the way
Because they are used to seeing that in porn
Where the trend most likely originally had started, as I read. Yes, so that it's easier to see. See what?
See the process of what's going on (and get excited), not just imagine it

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Yes, the majority of women shave in an effort to appear more attractive, and also to comply with cultural norms. It seems most men find shaved legs, and underarms more attractive and feminine.
Cultural norms it is!


Actually, it is fascinating to think how my preferences had evolved: in adolescence and up until not very long ago, I preferred hairless-chested look and clean-shaven face on men. Now I mind myself more and more leaning toward hairy chest (as it's more natural for man-men). So, the opposite starts feeling somehow childish. Just starting to

Non-bearded look is more rooted within my consciousness, I guess, as I grew up around men who ALL shaved and nobody had a beard. Guess what? This year, that mindset got shattered! Along with the dislike/aversion to bald/shaved head That's a major development for me!
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:06 AM
 
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My preference is a man who shaves his face daily. As far as baldness, unless it's a natural baldness, I don't care for a guy with a shaved head.

Since I'm a 'senior lady', a big turn-off to me is an older guy who refuses to shave in hopes it will hide his double chin, and he ends up looking like Santa Claus.

I worked with a guy in his 40s who purposely shaved his head because he claimed it made him look very powerful and intimidating. That's ludicrous!

Guys who are fad followers and leave a few days growth of beard, come off as too lazy to take care of personal grooming.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:13 AM
 
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To answer your first question, OP... no, you aren't.
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