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Old 10-25-2013, 04:35 PM
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I read this essay this morning and thought it was interesting: Will Women Ever Have the Freedom to Be Ugly?



And this is fitting for a forum such as this:
No.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I read this essay this morning and thought it was interesting: Will Women Ever Have the Freedom to Be Ugly?



And this is fitting for a forum such as this:
My prediction is that within about 10 responses to the OP, someone will shift the blame to women, saying it is really their own fault, blah, blah, blah...
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Old 10-25-2013, 07:36 PM
 
Location: East of the Mississippi and South of Bluegrass
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My prediction is that within about 10 responses to the OP, someone will shift the blame to women, saying it is really their own fault, blah, blah, blah...
Yeah, that was dead on...post #4, good call!
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Oh please, that's a fine piece of blog that conveniently ignores that women brought this upon themselves and compete with one another from make up to fashion accessories.

And also play the victim card now
Women who work on themselves relentlessly probably do not complain and "play the victim card." They are playing the game as it has presented itself to them, and most of the rules were made by men.

Women who don't work on themselves, are almost always considered ugly or unkempt by everyone, including other women.

Men dominate in advertising, film, TV, and publishing and clothing design. Their views about beauty and desirablility infiltrate or condition every woman and man in our culture. Even women in their views about the desirability of men, are conditioned by the domination of other men. Women haven't brought anything much on themselves. We are conditioned by every single thing in our lives to view ourselves desirable/not desirable to men.

Men are not much better off though. They seem to be conditioned to be archetypically "male" as our culture, dominated by other men, defines it. Of course these things ebb and flow. And there are unorthodox males and females, who often pay a heavy price for their individuality. The fact that women have demanded equality, and the fact that gays have also done the same, does not change the basic way everything works.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:46 AM
 
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This pressure is from other women not men.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:49 AM
 
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My prediction is that within about 10 responses to the OP, someone will shift the blame to women, saying it is really their own fault, blah, blah, blah...
Except that it took a little longer for the white knight to show up
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Bed-Stuy & Bushwick
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When women reject wearing makeup they will liberate themselves and upgrade society.

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Old 10-27-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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This pressure is from other women not men.
Actually the pressure is multi faceted. It starts with the fashion industry, run by mainly gay men, who don't make any other size than 2. This then translates itself to Hollywood and the media who reinforce that stereotype that women have to be thin to be beautiful. Maybe some women pressure others but in general I don't think other women are the catalyst for the notion you have to be thin to be attractive.
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:45 AM
 
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In my own life,its been both men and women who criticized my appearance.
I think women more open about it though. Men just mostly ignored me.

Men are no more guilty than women when it comes to criticism.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Bed-Stuy & Bushwick
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Like I said, when women stop putting on war paint, or as you call it.. makeup.. on your faces to camouflage yourselves into the society that's feeding on everyone's psyche all while hiding you from yourselves. Society can take the next step.

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