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Old 11-11-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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Smoking might not be the only factor that results in more aged looks. I think the lifestyle, and how much stress or no stress the twin is going through could also play a large part in their looks..I view the study as flawed because I can't see that they took these other MAJOR factors into account.
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: NJ
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what makes you think inhaleing vapors is safe?

there are probably ten thousand different chemicals in the vapor than a cig.

better off with the marlboro, e cigs have not been out that long to 'claim" they are safe.

chew a piece of gum.


The American Lung Association says
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What's in a Cigarette?
There are approximately 600 ingredients in cigarettes. When burned, they create more than 4,000 chemicals. At least 50 of these chemicals are known to cause cancer, and many are poisonous.
Electronic cigarette liquid/juice contains pharmacy grade Propylene Glycol and/or Vegetable Glycerin, Nicotine and Flavorings. It is mostly distilled water, contains zero tobacco, and the nicotine is optional.

What makes you think you're better off with Marlboro? They have been around a long time and have killed lots of people, unlike e-cigs which don't have a death count.


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Old 11-12-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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Ugh. Maybe every single person who smokes doesn't show it physically, but the majority that I know personally do. I can see it in their skin. I can see it in the skin of someone I don't know so am not surprised when I see them light up later.

I was with a friend once and was just meeting her mother for the first time. My friend is a smoker. For some reason, she told her mother that I also smoke. Her mother replied with, "There's no way she smokes. Look at her skin!"

It's obvious in more people than you probably think. Still, no one should gloat or look down on someone who smokes. Eventually most smokers regret picking up the habit. No need to make them feel like crap about it.
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:56 AM
 
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Shows photos of twins. One twin smoked longer than the other or one smoked and the other didn't. Considering the age of the twins in the photos, whether or not they smoked, they were exposed to smoke filled rooms in their lives. But it's very telling to see the difference in wrinkles between the twins.
Smokers' skin may age faster, study of twins shows | Fox News
Smoking is bad, we dont need these articles to prove it.
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Smoking is bad, we dont need these articles to prove it.
You never know what will get a smoker's attention and encourage them to quit. For some, it's watching a friend or loved one struggle with lung or throat or mouth cancer. For others, it's a loved one who suddenly has a heart attack, or is diagnosed with a lung disorder. For others, it's seeing something like this that really showcases how smoking can harm a person's looks - in other words through their vanity. Whatever works, is what I say. Some people are totally in denial about what smoking does to their bodies.
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Buxton UK
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People only keep smoking because they're addicted. Not because they enjoy it, or love throwing away all that money that they could do something useful with, rather than being completely selfish.

And like the above poster said, people really are in fantasy cloud cuckoo land about their own health. People really do think they're not going to die, not get cancer, or heart disease, just because the can't see any obvious signs of any problem NOW. "Oh" they think, "nothing is going to happen to me". "Bad things happen to other people but not me because I'm in control". So wrong. But these people are afraid of death are they not? Only a liar isn't. It's gunna happen eventually. You're going to die. But dying permaturely in agony with throat cancer and emphysema is not quite so preferable to dying peacefully in your sleep at 90.
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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The American Lung Association says


Electronic cigarette liquid/juice contains pharmacy grade Propylene Glycol and/or Vegetable Glycerin, Nicotine and Flavorings. It is mostly distilled water, contains zero tobacco, and the nicotine is optional.

What makes you think you're better off with Marlboro? They have been around a long time and have killed lots of people, unlike e-cigs which don't have a death count.

give it time, they will find something bad about E cigs.

just like they find something in everything.

I would not be inhaling vapors. I just dont think they have been out that long, I dont remember them 3 years ago???

BTW, I'm not a smoker either, I think it is the most repulsive thing any human could possibly want to do.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:06 AM
 
Location: NJ
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give it time, they will find something bad about E cigs.

just like they find something in everything.

I would not be inhaling vapors. I just dont think they have been out that long, I dont remember them 3 years ago???

BTW, I'm not a smoker either, I think it is the most repulsive thing any human could possibly want to do.
If they find something bad, it has to be a lesser evil than tobacco.
The liquid gets heated and inhaled, then vapor is exhaled. I started over 3.5 years ago and there were people vaping 2 years prior to that at least. Yes, smoking is repulsive but only ex-smokers and non-smokers really see it that way. Smokers don't know how bad they smell until they quit, then they understand.
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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If they find something bad, it has to be a lesser evil than tobacco.
The liquid gets heated and inhaled, then vapor is exhaled. I started over 3.5 years ago and there were people vaping 2 years prior to that at least. Yes, smoking is repulsive but only ex-smokers and non-smokers really see it that way. Smokers don't know how bad they smell until they quit, then they understand.

I don't even think it is the actual tobacco, which has been around for centuries, I think now, it is all the added chemicals in the cigs. Aren't they now fire safe or something to that effect where they go "out" after a while, so then that is another chemical added......I remember seeing an old Aunts coffee table with cig burns, lucky she never set the house on fire.....scary,

but what is in these vapors? How are they made? If it is man made and not natural, which they aren't, I wouldn't inhale it.
I would think it is better to stop smoking all together, than to do these E things. oh well....
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:26 AM
 
Location: China
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Wow, it seems it is the time to stop smoking. For my health and beauty. I do think so now.
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