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Old 12-25-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Personally, I couldn't care less how a person wears his or her hair. But for some to say (and calipoppy you didn't say this I'm just talking in general) certain styles are equally as "socially acceptable" as others with no negative repercussions is just not so. Now, that may be because of others prejudices but it still IS.

Dare I guess that the same women pictured above with those styles MIGHT (not would, just MIGHT) have a less chance of being hired as a receptionist at certain offices, or a news anchor than if their hair was more mainstream? Heck, I think it was just this year a news anchor was in the news because her station pulled her because she cut her hair super short.

Would those with the above opinion also say dreadlocks are equally as socially acceptable as other styles. TRUE -- dreadlocks have come a LOOONG way, in acceptability. But to say they're always equally as acceptable is just not true.

If you want a pharmaceutical sales job -- try getting it with dreads sticking out of a tall Rasta hat. I'm not saying you WON'T get it. Don't be surprised if you don't.

Again, I think it's GREAT that all clean hair styles are becoming more acceptable. But as another post points out IF certain styles were equally acceptable -- a poster here wouldn't have had to ask in another thread about her natural hairstyle being acceptable at her office, or worry about the negative consequences of such a decision.

This thread started out about whether a person should get a weave. People can wear weaves if they want. I'm more interested in the psychological reasons behind that decision. Some have said they don't feel pretty (and/or socially acceptable) without a weave. THAT is what I find disheartening. (and quite sad actually)
No one is discussing dreadlocks. Wearing your hair in its natural texture does not equal dreadlocks.

The women below are wearing their natural hair texture. Why would they have issues getting a receptionist or a sales job? Wearing my natural hair did not stop me from being hired for a corporate position in HR and I live/work in one of the most conservative areas in the West (AZ)


And please explain what is socially unacceptable about this woman's hair?

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Old 12-25-2013, 02:33 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I didn't realize there was such hoopla about black women's hair til I watch Chris Rocks move "hair" it was interesting to say the least... LOL

I think the pics of the ladies Calipoppy posted look great. I don't know what the names of the styles are, but they look good to me. I think I would prefer that look on black women, more so than the weaves but to each their own.
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Old 12-25-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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Hair density varies by natural color, i.e., hairs per square inch. So some people will have thinner hair. I only know redheads have the least number per square inch b/c I am a redhead. It's usually curly/ kinky (mine was kinky when young & I am white) so it didn't look thin. Now it does as the curl is gone with age. I could use extensions but I am not vain enough to pay that kind of money!
This! In my case, I was the product of one of my mom's affairs & due to my hair I thought I was one quarter to one eight black due to my hair till I had a DNA test. Only to find I''m a plain white girl with super curls! But my curls also have gotten looser with age!
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Old 12-25-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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I didn't realize there was such hoopla about black women's hair til I watch Chris Rocks move "hair" it was interesting to say the least... LOL

I think the pics of the ladies Calipoppy posted look great. I don't know what the names of the styles are, but they look good to me. I think I would prefer that look on black women, more so than the weaves but to each their own.

This! Its like black women can not win either way. I did not realise that Beyownce's hair must be fake till I saw her dragging her daughter & her daughter had typical black people''s hair & there she was, with a blonde dry mane!. Well I knew the blonde was fake since she is too dark to naturally have blonde hair. Then I looked closely & realised her weave was dry and just fake looking. The contrast between their two hairs was astoundingly embarassing. It reaked of self hate on her part!

On the other hand, its like when black women wear their natural hair, unless they have supermodel looks it raises eyebrows, especially in the workplace.
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Old 12-25-2013, 03:21 PM
 
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Personally, I couldn't care less how a person wears his or her hair. But for some to say (and calipoppy you didn't say this I'm just talking in general) certain styles are equally as "socially acceptable" as others with no negative repercussions is just not so. Now, that may be because of others prejudices but it still IS.

Dare I guess that the same women pictured above with those styles MIGHT (not would, just MIGHT) have a less chance of being hired as a receptionist at certain offices, or a news anchor than if their hair was more mainstream? Heck, I think it was just this year a news anchor was in the news because her station pulled her because she cut her hair super short.

Would those with the above opinion also say dreadlocks are equally as socially acceptable as other styles. TRUE -- dreadlocks have come a LOOONG way, in acceptability. But to say they're always equally as acceptable is just not true.

If you want a pharmaceutical sales job -- try getting it with dreads sticking out of a tall Rasta hat. I'm not saying you WON'T get it. Don't be surprised if you don't.

Again, I think it's GREAT that all clean hair styles are becoming more acceptable. But as another post points out IF certain styles were equally acceptable -- a poster here wouldn't have had to ask in another thread about her natural hairstyle being acceptable at her office, or worry about the negative consequences of such a decision.

This thread started out about whether a person should get a weave. People can wear weaves if they want. I'm more interested in the psychological reasons behind that decision. Some have said they don't feel pretty (and/or socially acceptable) without a weave. THAT is what I find disheartening. (and quite sad actually)
IMO the tragedy of this discussion is that people will come here & show a SUPERMODEL caliber chick with dreadlocks & of course she will look great. IMO hair like that WILL be an issue for women and men without supermodel looks & most people do not.


Dreadlocks For Women ~ Chehols Hairstyles

versus

Google-Ergebnis für http://www.howtodread.com/dreadlocking.jpg

Guess who will get the job?
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Old 12-25-2013, 03:34 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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I didn't realize there was such hoopla about black women's hair til I watch Chris Rocks move "hair" it was interesting to say the least... LOL

I think the pics of the ladies Calipoppy posted look great. I don't know what the names of the styles are, but they look good to me. I think I would prefer that look on black women, more so than the weaves but to each their own.
Thanks Chowhound. These pictures are of black women simply wearing their natural hair texture. And MANY blacks think that our natural hair texture is "ugly", "unprofessional", "unkempt" etc. and will do anything to not show their natural hair texture.
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Old 12-25-2013, 03:51 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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This! Its like black women can not win either way. I did not realise that Beyownce's hair must be fake till I saw her dragging her daughter & her daughter had typical black people''s hair & there she was, with a blonde dry mane!. Well I knew the blonde was fake since she is too dark to naturally have blonde hair. Then I looked closely & realised her weave was dry and just fake looking. The contrast between their two hairs was astoundingly embarassing. It reaked of self hate on her part!

On the other hand, its like when black women wear their natural hair, unless they have supermodel looks it raises eyebrows, especially in the workplace.
There is a lot of ignorance in this post. Sorry but yes.
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Old 12-25-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Thanks Chowhound. These pictures are of black women simply wearing their natural hair texture. And MANY blacks think that our natural hair texture is "ugly", "unprofessional", "unkempt" etc. and will do anything to not show their natural hair texture.
I remember in that movie Chris Rock did, I remember thinking his little girls he showed were just cute as hell, I couldn't bear thinking of my child facing issues with their natural hair not feeling accepted or fit in or whatever....

I think it's just a byproduct of the euro-centric nature of our society at least here in America.

Back to the burning question of the thread, "weaves, yay or nay."

Put a check box in the nay column.

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Old 12-25-2013, 05:58 PM
 
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back in the day we encouraged dog mane
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Old 12-25-2013, 07:04 PM
 
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No one is discussing dreadlocks. Wearing your hair in its natural texture does not equal dreadlocks.

The women below are wearing their natural hair texture. Why would they have issues getting a receptionist or a sales job? Wearing my natural hair did not stop me from being hired for a corporate position in HR and I live/work in one of the most conservative areas in the West (AZ)


And please explain what is socially unacceptable about this woman's hair?
I once did HR at a relative's company & I can tell you #1 looks supermodelish like a chocolate Rhihanna she WOULD get hired ASAP. #2 on the other hand..Mehh, So because #2 was awful I can NOT say I looked at #3.
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