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Old 02-13-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Tell me, how is it a sign of respect? What objective fact do you have that a person is more or less respectful by removing a hat inside? If it carried such symbolic weight, there would not even be a discussion, but fact is, enough people feel it does not mean jack squat...
You state that "enough" people feel it does not matter. What is your definition of "enough"? I maintain that there are certainly enough living people in the world to make it worth making a respectful gesture for their benefit.

And by the way, why is an opportunity to express respect for another persons home, the diners in a restaurant, being in a place or worship, etc. a bad thing? Why the heck shouldn't people err on the side of being a little more respectful for the benefit of those that might care, rather than on the side of laziness?
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Or people are just less sensitive to formalities that have a deep puritan background as they become smarter and learn that it really isn't relevant

I grew up being taught all the same stuff about hats - then again, they weren't all that common in that period of time

There are all sorts of dress norms and rules that have fallen out of fashion for one reason or anyother over the years and somethings that were very common that aren't acceptable

50 years ago you could light up a diner like a chimney with cigarette smoke, but it was frowned upon to wear a hat ...... now it's reversed

I fail to see the impact to my life though of people dressing casual in casual circumstances
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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Or people are just less sensitive to formalities that have a deep puritan background as they become smarter and learn that it really isn't relevant

I grew up being taught all the same stuff about hats - then again, they weren't all that common in that period of time

There are all sorts of dress norms and rules that have fallen out of fashion for one reason or anyother over the years and somethings that were very common that aren't acceptable

50 years ago you could light up a diner like a chimney with cigarette smoke, but it was frowned upon to wear a hat ...... now it's reversed

I fail to see the impact to my life though of people dressing casual in casual circumstances
The "impact" is that traditions that allow for a more genial world, for more expressions of humility and respect, are worth keeping. God knows we have enough other hateful/crappy traditions we can get rid of instead...
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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It is called etiquette.
I am very aware of the terminology associated with the subject of this thread, but thanks.

Etiquette changes throughout the years, I guarantee you are not following all etiquette that was around 100, or even fifty years ago, heck, you are probably not even following it all now.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:52 AM
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I find it worse when people wear indoor sunglasses.
That annoys me, too. Just so much cooler than the rest of us.

Yeah, yeah, if you've had cataract surgery you get a pass.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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I am very aware of the terminology associated with the subject of this thread, but thanks.

Etiquette changes throughout the years, I guarantee you are not following all etiquette that was around 100, or even fifty years ago, heck, you are probably not even following it all now.
Hat etiquette has remained the same for a very, very long time.

It's also pretty simple.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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The "impact" is that traditions that allow for a more genial world, for more expressions of humility and respect, are worth keeping. God knows we have enough other hateful/crappy traditions we can get rid of instead...
And a hat makes for a more genial world how? How is wearing a hat inside impacting the genially of the world?

Etiquette changes, there are probably a lot of etiquette you are not following now.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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IMO....things changed when ball caps started being worn.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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IMO....things changed when ball caps started being worn.
Things change as the world progresses and people understand a lot of obligatory etiquette stuff is just BS. It is not just the hats, it is numerous things that have been done away with over the years because it really was just BS.
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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And a hat makes for a more genial world how? How is wearing a hat inside impacting the genially of the world?

Etiquette changes, there are probably a lot of etiquette you are not following now.
For one thing, hat etiquette has not really changed much at all for an exceedingly long time. It's not like it's some ever-shifting thing.

And the reason it makes for a more genial world is simply because the small symbolic effort (as opposed to not bothering) shows humility and respect. So does saying "thank you" or shaking someone's hand. None of these actually accomplish anything but I don't think we should do away with them.
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