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Old 06-05-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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There you have it. People have spoken. I'll be interested to know what type of women do black men want to see in porn?

None...
black men want to see other men of any color,which is their ultimate goal.

 
Old 06-08-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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I am not sure I would assign a negative connotation of a "conspiracy" because marketing types lean towards models who are representative of attractiveness ideals to the majority population.

There are also a lot of terrific looking, highly successful models of minority descent in modern marketing.

The marketers are not trying to force down people's throats what is attractive, they are trying to appeal to what most already think is attractive to gain people's attention. If they find the stereotypical blue eyed blond model gets the most attention, then they are more than likely to go that route.
Whites are the minority, when you consider the world population; therefore, it doesn't make sense that throughout the world, the white beauty standard is promoted.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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Pam Anderson was the poster child of the "hot white chick," but she's aged horribly. Pamela Anderson covers her famous figure in demure dress | Mail Online

There's nothing beautiful about age spots, wrinkles and frown lines...
 
Old 06-08-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Pam Anderson was the poster child of the "hot white chick," but she's aged horribly. Pamela Anderson covers her famous figure in demure dress | Mail Online

There's nothing beautiful about age spots, wrinkles and frown lines...

Caucasians tend to not age very well. IMO, this is the reason that many men pursue/chose "ethnic" women as their 2nd wives. But in their teens/20s, Caucasian women are viewed as the pinnacle of feminine beauty.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Pam Anderson was the poster child of the "hot white chick," but she's aged horribly. Pamela Anderson covers her famous figure in demure dress | Mail Online

There's nothing beautiful about age spots, wrinkles and frown lines...
It is harder to age well if you have fair skin and spend lots of time in the sun!
 
Old 06-08-2014, 12:52 PM
 
Location: West Coast
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Joy74, steelers, moon and stars, calipoppy and jade all killed it in this thread. All of them said nothing but truth. One thing I want to add is that the FACT that white women are promoted as the standard of beauty does not mean that they ARE the most beautiful group of women. Any man or woman that believes that is clueless. Every race has their groups of most attractive, averages, and unattractives. White women are no different. The images that we see paraded in the media that feature tan white women with pretty eyes, plush lips, athletic slim bodies, bubble butts, long pretty hair and feminine European features, do not represent the majority of white women. While there are plenty of attractive white women, there are just as many that are average or unattractive. The same goes for black women, Asian, Hispanic, etc.

The difference I suppose is that the media and society often pumps up the idea that MOST white women look like the images we see in the media, while doing the complete opposite for instance with black women. We are led to believe that the black women in the media are only attractive because they look white but that the average black woman is not attractive. And as I said this is exactly opposite of the way in which society sees white women, there is an underlining belief that white women on average look as beautiful as the white women often promoted in the media, and that there are only small groups of white women that are unattractive(honey boo boo is often used as an example). When the reality is that most white women when compared to other races of women of the same caliber-apples to apples-are not any more beautiful or exceptional looking than their racial counterparts.

It's so ingrained in society to associate white women with an image of Upton, or fox, etc that most minority men seeking white women are seeking the ones that have that look. In fact there have been numerous threads started by these men where they complained about specific white women rejecting them and whenever they described these white women they almost always sounded as though they were describing a woman who's attractiveness was to the caliber of upton or megan fox.

It wasn't as if these men were interested in all white women, just certain ones. Ones that look similar to the images being promoted to them. Ones that don't look like "averages".

On the other hand people will often say that it's impossible for a black woman like beyonce to be fully black because she is attractive or they will say she has white features and that's why she's attractive or they will say that most black women don't look like her. It's almost always a negative tone. It's those differences that I find very amusing. The assumption "that black women in the media do not represent the beauty of black women because the ones in the media are only attractive because they look white but full black women don't look that way and thus only most black women aren't attractive and the ones that are look white". It's funny logic, but really speaks to what has been sold to the masses about beauty. In reality it's subjective and race really should not have bearing, but unfortunately that is not the case. Certain images are being sold as beautiful and women that don't meet those images are casted, women that do are placed on a pedestal. Hence the reason why white women, and really only certain ones, are often coveted.

That being said I see plenty of attractive white women in my workplace. They are often always tan, with silky hair, good bodies, etc and they know they are pretty and men treat them accordingly. Whether they admit it or not they are aware that they are desirable to a lot of men. The ones that are more average looking or that are unattractive still might be looked at in a positive manner compared to black women for instance--solely might I add based on the fact that they are white--by minority men and even some white men but overall they have different experiences then the very attractive white women. Overall white women have a great advantage in the dating world, even those that are not very attractive. Women on the opposite end of the spectrum where the media has basically called most unattractive but a few "white looking ones" fare different circumstances.

Some people want to believe otherwise but it's truth. If white women were not the dominant image of beauty in the media things would be different. Yes white men would probably still prefer them overall(just like most black men prefer black women) but they would not get as hyped up as they are.
Great Post. I just think that American culture is particularly unhealthy for Black women seeking positive images, so I don't think its useful to rely on it. We keep looking to this culture to uplift us, when this culture is the one that degraded our image in the first place. American media is American culture. Every aspect of this culture is to degrade our image from the most subtle to the most obvious. It is a merry-go-round that we should be trying to get off of. I think the fact that we don't have anything to replace it with within this society is the reason why we keep going around in circles.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: southern california
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blond and cute is a world standard not an american standard
its not a fashion conspiracy.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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blond and cute is a world standard not an american standard
its not a fashion conspiracy.
The problem isn't that blond and cute is a "standard." The problem is that blond and cute is the only image at all, particularly that is reflected positively.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: southern california
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The problem isn't that blond and cute is a "standard." The problem is that blond and cute is the only image at all, particularly that is reflected positively.
you mean you want to control what people see and think? didnt they write about book about that "1984"?
 
Old 06-08-2014, 04:18 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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you mean you want to control what people see and think? didnt they write about book about that "1984"?
I think that you have entirely missed the point of her post. Its not about your personal preferences or what you believe is attractive. Its about the overall societal reinforcement of ONE aesthetic being the only standard of beauty.
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