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Old 08-17-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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General dislike of dyed hair, I guess, along with intellectual curiosity. Based on the lack of medium-to-dark-haired/brown-eyed non-ethnic white young American women in the American media, there does seem to be almost a conspiracy. I'd love to figure it out.

By the way, everyone, I didn't mean to move the goalposts. Look closely at the first post. It gave no examples of ethnic women or foreigners. I should have said "non-ethnic" or something in that post.
OMG get over it already.

STAR of her own show. Ashley Rickards.
http://images.tvrage.com/people/59/175246.jpg


Another MTV STAR of her own show.
http://media3.onsugar.com/files/2014...Teen-Years.jpg

Main female lead on another MTV show
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2..._Reed_003.jpeg

Another one also, star own show on MTV.
http://img2.timeinc.net/instyle/imag...tevens-276.jpg

Ok so out of four of the half dozen or so mtv non reality shows, more than half the lead female actresses are brunettes.

Can we end this thread now?
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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Another one also, star own show on MTV.
http://img2.timeinc.net/instyle/imag...tevens-276.jpg
But she doesn't have brown eyes!
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:55 PM
 
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I didn't dismiss every example. A few, like Ashley Rickard, seem to fit. (I did not say ancestry had to be mostly Anglo-Saxon, and white women with light-colored eyes do count.) There's also Kristen Stewart (movies air on TV). The thread's title begins with "Few," not "None."

Edit: I'll speculate why MTV shows seem to have more than the usual share of dark-haired non-ethnic white leads: trying to appeal to Middle America (probably aren't meant to air overseas) while being dark and edgy. And MTV seems a dead end for most acting careers.

Lea Michele is quite ethnic-looking. More ethnic-looking than many Jews, actually. (Some people with Jewish ancestry look almost indistinguishable from those without, but I can't think of any such young Americans on TV.) Didn't know Lea is part-Turkish, which some wouldn't consider white.

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Old 08-17-2014, 02:35 PM
 
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Lea Michele is quite ethnic-looking. More ethnic-looking than many Jews, actually. (Some people with Jewish ancestry look almost indistinguishable from those without, but I can't think of any such young Americans on TV.) Didn't know Lea is part-Turkish, which some wouldn't consider white.
But the thing is, she isn't ethnic. I don't even really see why you think that. Because she doesn't have a petite nose?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MIZfkdtlLv...up+2014+02.jpg


I just don't agree with your argument that there are few white brunettes on tv. Take Pretty Little Liars as an example. Its a popular teen show on Abc Family. Of the 5 main girls, only two have blonde hair. And actually I think they're the only ones in the entire cast to have blonde hair. Maybe a few other minor characters here and there, but for the most part not many white girls with blonde hair.

Other ABC Family Shows

Secret Life of an American Teenager... Main girl has brown hair
Chasing Life... Main girl has brown hair
Switched at Birth... One of the two main girls has brown hair
The Fosters... Main girl has brown hair
The Lying Game... Main girl has brown hair










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Old 08-17-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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Even with a nose job, Lea would still look quite ethnic. Its her dark skin and other things I can't explain.

As for the others, it's just more of the same, with not enough analysis. For example, on Pretty Little Liars (which I'd been trying to remember), only one of the young brunettes is a non-ethnic white. If I go through the others above, I expect several won't meet the criteria.

Here's a guess for why the TV trend: things are increasingly marketed internationally, and it's harder to market serious stuff overseas. Because blondes seem almost revered around much of the world and come across as less serious, they fit that better than do brunettes. And if brunettes are chosen, might as well use darker-skinned ones that some of those places more relate to.
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Old 08-17-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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Even with a nose job, Lea would still look quite ethnic. Its her dark skin and other things I can't explain.
And yet you expect us to keep up with your arbitrary criteria. If you can't even figure out what it is, there's no way we can.
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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Even with a nose job, Lea would still look quite ethnic. Its her dark skin and other things I can't explain.
So no tans allowed? I didn't know it was so hard to be considered a white American. I guess I have to go change all the race boxes I've ever checked because I'm tan...

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As for the others, it's just more of the same, with not enough analysis. For example, on Pretty Little Liars (which I'd been trying to remember), only one of the young brunettes is a non-ethnic white. If I go through the others above, I expect several won't meet the criteria.
Only one of the girls is not white. Lucy Hale and Troian Bellisario are both dark haired and white.

http://www.magweb.com/picts/nm0069079.jpg
http://media.celebrity-pictures.ca/C...le-1075695.jpg

Some of the other's meantioned... And just from ABC Family teen dramas...

Vanessa Marano- http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.6080...184654&pid=1.7
Her sister, Laura, is on the Disney Channel http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i7HmKmdHfO...no-tcas-03.jpg

Alexandra Chando- http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wen...sardi-s-01.jpg

Shailene Woodley- http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV...640_SY988_.jpg

India Eisley- http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV...640_SY798_.jpg

Italia Ricci is Canadian, but she plays a White American on TV
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/I...S6p5vXSIQl.jpg

Maia Mitchell also plays an American on tv, although she is from Australia
http://www.hdpaperwall.com/wp-conten...1374694971.jpg


Edited to Add: And a lot of the none white women on tv right now are mixed race, either Asian (Nicole Anderson, Shay Mitchel) or Hispanic (Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez,) and white. So its not like their is a shortage of white/dark haired women on tv.



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Old 08-17-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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I am not a Photoshop person, but if somebody edits Lea Michele's nose and skin color with it, she'll still look ethnic. I don't know of any resource that fully articulates, for example, typical Anglo-Saxon female features, but she's far from that. (Her lips are a factor.)

Bellisario, Chando, Marano - I can almost guarantee from the names alone that they are significantly ethnic in ancestry.

Two others admittedly are not Americans.

India Eisley, whatever her background, is not a grown woman.

I agree that many of the non-white women on TV are relatively light-skinned mixed race. Bluntly, to some degree, they probably have taken the jobs of non-ethnic medium/dark-haired white women or virtually forced them to dye their hair. It's maybe the only widespread situation in the entertainment industry where being ethnic is an advantage. Edit: it's plausible that mildly exotic women are more attention-getting (say, on magazine covers) than blandly white women on the same physical attractiveness level.

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Old 08-17-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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There are any number of white women with dark hair on TV, just look up shows on the CW, I don't really know the names of current stars, but Witches of East End come to mind, there is a really popular vampire show on (I think the CW too), that's been on for years.

This is an odd OP.
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Old 08-17-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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Bellisario, Chando, Marano - I can almost guarantee from the names alone that they are significantly ethnic in ancestry.
And now they have to have names like Smith, Johnson, or Jones to be considered American. Bellisario and Marano are Italian names. Not really sure about Chando, but probably European as well.

Weird how I always thought that being an American citizen of (mostly) European decent made me a white American. But apparently there is all sorts of other criteria I have to meet.

What a strange thread... women not being considered white enough

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India Eisley, whatever her background, is not a grown woman.
Your thread is titled "Young White Women..." I would consider a 20 year old a young woman.
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