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Pornography has set the tone for what men find attractive. I am 57, I have seen full bush to what equates to infant smooth. The infant thing was OK but an 80s Playboy bush is real. If arm or leg hair have never been shaved it is not coarse as a man's. It's actually soft.
i tend to play out of my age group.
Women with body hair just aren't feminine to me. Ladies are supposed to be smooth and silky, not rough and scratchy. However, I do like a little hair 'down there'. Just a landing strip.
Supposed to be? As quoted in the Bible, Quran or the Guide to Streaming Free Porn?
I do feel very very sorry for your wife, I assume she doesn't put her 'olfactory receptors' near your privates either, which in that case I feel very very sorry for you as well. I mean, unless you two both just hold your breath while you are down there... in that case.. impressive. :P
Ah, but the part of the story that I did not tell is that, in spite of my extreme distaste for doing so, I have actually done so, to her, on more than one occasion. She has told me that she's never cared to do that... never liked it much... and that's about the reaction I've gotten when I've done it. I say - whew, glad I dodged that bullet. It would stick for me, being with someone who really liked that. Now, that being said, don't feel sorry for my wife. I have said in the past that we are musicians, and that piano is my primary instrument. Read: I make my living with my fingers. Catch my drift?
And don't feel sorry for me either - I have never wanted a woman to put her face in my crotch. Hence, I don't groom down there either. I wash, and that's it. (Some of you may want to ask me "has a woman ever done that to you?" Yes. Multiple women, multiple times. It never did anything for me. And now that I'm married, getting that when I could get "the real thing" is like getting a cookie when I could get a big freaking pepperoni pizza.)
Thus, my dual-sided across-the-boards aversion to oral is why I don't care about pubic hair. When we're doing what we each prefer, for sexual pleasure, pubic hair is never experienced in any way nor does it impede the act.
However, I should say that we have tried shaving / trimming. We both find it weird... and at times likely to cause itching. It cannot be said that we're knocking something we've never tried.
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I just don't understand being with someone if you don't enjoy the smell of their privates... Because the smell of a woman is to be enjoyed, treasured, worshiped because when she hits menopause it is gone, and so many many men report missing the smell in their lovers when menopause starts.
I don't understand how it can be "making love" when the two people's bodies are not oriented in such a way that each person can enjoy the other with as much of his/her sensory perception as possible. For example, if my head is "down there", I can't see my wife naked nor can I watch her in the throes of passion. I couldn't even hear her as well as I can when my ear is mere inches from her mouth. I wouldn't want to miss that. Furthermore, most of my body is wasted not being in contact with hers. Taste is irrelevant because if I'm holding my breath or breathing through my mouth, I'm not going to taste anything.
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I guess I just can't imagine not loving the way a woman smells, and i'm a straight woman. I can't imagine being put on earth to put my 'thing' inside of something whose smell makes my stomach turn.
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But if it works for you and your wife are happy then who am I to say anything? nobody
My wife's smell doesn't make my stomach turn... but then again, that's because I only smell her in locations that aren't going to stink. It doesn't make a person nasty if he or she has some places that don't smell great. After all, nobody's cornhole smells good but we don't hear people universally lambasting others for having stinky butts.
Actually, the fact that neither of us cares to have a face in his/her crotch is quite liberating and enabling. This means that we can make the bed rock regardless of things like whether or not we've recently showered, or what time of the month it is... or how much pubic hair we're currently sporting. Trust me... we want for nothing in the bedroom.
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Gotta agree w/ you there. I dated a couple guys that were not into giving oral and they were mostly just terrible lovers all around..big red flag for me! Hair or not, I am accustomed to having my p#$$* worshipped and worshipping a man in return, so if he ain't down for gettin' down then he gots to go!
I really wonder how it is possible for a man to be a terrible lover. The act is mechanically the same between any man and woman. I would understand, to an extent, the assertion that a man is not a great lover for you if you desire oral and he doesn't want to give it... but you stated that such men are "terrible lovers all around"... meaning that they were poor at all other aspects of sex. I fail to see the logic. A man can be a good lover and not like giving or receiving oral. Heck, I ask my wife regularly if there's anything she wants me to do, or do differently... if that's not making it obvious that I'm trying to please her, I don't know what is. (And I'm happy to admit that she has never once suggested that I put my face in her crotch.)
I really wonder how it is possible for a man to be a terrible lover. The act is mechanically the same between any man and woman. I would understand, to an extent, the assertion that a man is not a great lover for you if you desire oral and he doesn't want to give it... but you stated that such men are "terrible lovers all around"... meaning that they were poor at all other aspects of sex. I fail to see the logic. A man can be a good lover and not like giving or receiving oral. Heck, I ask my wife regularly if there's anything she wants me to do, or do differently... if that's not making it obvious that I'm trying to please her, I don't know what is. (And I'm happy to admit that she has never once suggested that I put my face in her crotch.)
Yes, I enjoy giving & receiving. The particular men I dated (not "ALL" men..) failed to meet my criteria for passion and compatibility. Sure, it was great for them- what man doesn't enjoy his own pleasure? - but love & lust are reciprocal in my book. Great sexual chemistry is all encompassing for me. And no, they weren't 'piano players' either lol.. No music, no harmony, no rhythm.. Kinda like bringing a kazoo to the symphony lol..
The best sex I ever had was with a woman who just started letting her downstairs grow out. It felt like I was humping a cactus.
Rumor has it that Paul Harvey of radio's "The Rest of The Story" fame had one episode censored. It was based upon a conversation with Swiss Scientist George De Mestral's inspiration for the invention of Velcro - a portmanteau of the French words velours (velvet) and crotchet (hook) and was not related to his hunting trip observations with his dog in the Alps getting burdock burrs but the censors were adamant and he felt his wife would feel ashamed. So the burrs on dogs coat is what was reported....
As someone else mentioned, when female body hair is not shaved (legs etc..) it is mostly soft wisps like a mans - it's only an aesthetic thing - which begs the question on most all the ancient art forms, as to why the women in sculptures, paintings, etc... are always depicted as smooth and without body hair? Were they terrible artisans? Did showing hair have some evil 'dirty' connotation? Were they all into prepubescent women? Were the societal norms of ancient times not all that different than now?
As for the scent comments, that is one of the reasons anthropologically for pubic hair. It enhances the pheromone dispersion. Hence, males would know when females are in the mood. I wonder if this is where the idiomatic phrase, "The bloom is off the rose" originates?
Other than armpit or leg hair, I could care less. I've been married for 19 years and I have zero problems with hair below the equator.. Lots of it even, as I spend a lot of time down there.
I need at least a landing strip as bald creeps me out, like I should be driving a white windowless van with "Free Candy"written on it.
Armpit hair isn't usually something you see on a woman in the US but it's gross, I'm sorry. I can see if women think men's armpit hair is gross. I don't shave mine and the women I have seen with armpit hair usually puts mine to shame, like they have Chewbacca in a head lock.
Women with body hair just aren't feminine to me. Ladies are supposed to be smooth and silky, not rough and scratchy. However, I do like a little hair 'down there'. Just a landing strip.
Women are "supposed to be" as their DNA and hormones dictate.
Ok, this is the flip side of the question that was asked on the other thread about whether women dislike hairy men.
We are talking here about whether hair in a woman's various places, where it grows naturally, is a turn-off for men. For those that say yes, it would be nice if they would explain how they got turned off to it...... since hair is a natural thing in both sexes.... like nails.
Well, my lady has this very fine, soft hair on her arms. Her forearms , specifically. As I said, it is very fine. But pretty long too. I find it quite attractive. It just...fits in. Part of who she is. I don't know as this qualifies to the question, she is hardly hirsute. But the body hair she does have is quite feminine and , to me, quite fetching.
From the neck down there should be nothing there. Light arm hair is ok because frankly who shaves that? Beyond that there shouldnt be anything there.
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No music, no harmony, no rhythm.. Kinda like bringing a kazoo to the symphony lol..
Rumor has it that Paul Harvey of radio's "The Rest of The Story" fame had one episode censored. It was based upon a conversation with Swiss Scientist George De Mestral's inspiration for the invention of Velcro - a portmanteau of the French words velours (velvet) and crotchet (hook) and was not related to his hunting trip observations with his dog in the Alps getting burdock burrs but the censors were adamant and he felt his wife would feel ashamed. So the burrs on dogs coat is what was reported....
